1 terabyte external drive at DVinfo.net

Federico Dib · January 15th, 2004, 11:19 AM

http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10118

I just got an e-mail with this link... and wanted to share..

I just can´t imagine how long a full defrag, format would take, or what if the drive breaks down with your QUOTE: "two years of continuous music and up to one month of non-stop MPEG-2 video1."

I mean, all this space is really good, but it seems they are selling it as the "never-do-backups-again"?¿?...

J. Clayton Stansberry · January 15th, 2004, 11:26 AM

...if I only had $1200...wish wish wish...how long do you guys think it will be before this price will come down?

Patrick MCMurray · January 16th, 2004, 03:24 AM

watt is that? nine-pin firewire? should i have a subscription to max-pc, instead of pop science and maxim?

Rob Lohman · January 16th, 2004, 05:30 AM

That's around 80 hours of storage space.... Would hate for that
drive to crash! Better back it up often on another 1TB drive.

Scott Anderson · January 19th, 2004, 02:29 PM

One thing I don't understand - whose hard drives are they using? Does Lacie make their own drives? I'm assuming the Big Disk is a single 5.5" 500 GB drive, and the Bigger Disk is 2 of the same. Would it be possible to format the the Bigger Disk as a 500GB Raid to get higher data transfer rates? Where can we find specs on the number of platters, read/write graphs, etc.? I'm certain one of the larger video magazines will do a writeup soon, but I'm impatient.

Rob Lohman · January 20th, 2004, 03:20 AM

They don't seem to want to give out any information regarding
which disks or how many. If there is more then 1 drive in there,
then it will probably be a striped RAID set.

9 pin firewire is for the new 800 mbit firewire standard. It also
has a "normal" 6 pin connector for hooking it up to old trusted
400 mbit firewire. It also has an USB connector.

Marcia Janine Galles · January 28th, 2004, 01:55 PM

I've always heard good things about LaCie drives, but has anybody ever heard anything to the contrary? A couple years ago somene told me to go Western Digital, and it was a lemon. Doesn't reliably sustain 7200 rpms, so I'm shopping around more extensively this time around. I'm tempted to go 2-250's as 1-500 makes me nervous, let alone the 1T as you guys have said. Talk about potential heartbreak under the gun.
Marcia

Paul Vlachos · January 30th, 2004, 10:25 AM

The LaCie 500 Big Disk is two 250s in one enclosure. The 400 is two 200s and the 320 is two 160s. From the form factor, it looks to me like the 1 Terrabyte drive is four 250s.

I own a few LaCies, but I like keeping it to the single drive in each enclosure, mainly in the interest of not keeping all my eggs in one basket. I've had hard drives fail in the past - all internal - but it can happen, and I'd rather lose 200 or 250 gigs than 500.

As always, it's important to back up everything.

Marcia Janine Galles · January 30th, 2004, 05:51 PM

Interesting Paul, and it clears up which I'm going to order. I've had drives fail when working in a pro bay, and it ain't much fun. I'm now a bit conservative that way, too.

Thanks for the feedback.

Monte Merritt · February 26th, 2004, 01:05 PM

Sweet.
Too bad you have to use a computer - It'd be great to be able to capture directly to it from your camera. Does anyone know of such a device?

Rob Lohman · February 27th, 2004, 02:55 AM

A couple of those exist indeed Monte. We even have a special
forum here for one of them: Focus Enhancements FireStore

Then there is also one called the QuickStream.

Scott Anderson · February 28th, 2004, 09:29 AM

Since this thread has moved back towards the top, I'll post an update that pertains to both the 500 and 1000Gb models.

I spoke with a Lacie sales rep Friday, who said the Lacie Big Disk Extreme (new product on the Lacie website) claims transfer rates up to 50% faster than the Big Disk. This is due to moving from the Oxford Semiconductor 922 chipset (usb 2 and firewire 800) to the 912 chipset (firewire 800 only). The price difference is only $30 for the new model.

Lacie says to expect a Bigger Disk Extreme in time for NAB (late April), so if the extra speed is going to be an issue and you don't need USB2, you may want to wait on that 1TB monster drive.

Marco Leavitt · February 28th, 2004, 10:35 AM

The latest issue of DV Magazine has a writeup on these drives by the way, although they don't actually review them.

January 15th, 2004, 11:19 AM	#1
Federico Dib Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 312	1 terabyte external drive http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10118 I just got an e-mail with this link... and wanted to share.. I just can´t imagine how long a full defrag, format would take, or what if the drive breaks down with your QUOTE: "two years of continuous music and up to one month of non-stop MPEG-2 video1." I mean, all this space is really good, but it seems they are selling it as the "never-do-backups-again"?¿?... __________________ Messenger Boy : The Thessalonian you're fighting, he's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him. Achilles : That is why no one will remember your name.

January 15th, 2004, 11:26 AM	#2
J. Clayton Stansberry Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 316	...if I only had $1200...wish wish wish...how long do you guys think it will be before this price will come down? __________________ I understand everything about nothing.

January 16th, 2004, 03:24 AM	#3
Patrick MCMurray Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 66	firewire 800? watt is that? nine-pin firewire? should i have a subscription to max-pc, instead of pop science and maxim? __________________ Remember, Tuesdays are Soylent Green days!

January 16th, 2004, 05:30 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That's around 80 hours of storage space.... Would hate for that drive to crash! Better back it up often on another 1TB drive. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 20th, 2004, 03:20 AM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	They don't seem to want to give out any information regarding which disks or how many. If there is more then 1 drive in there, then it will probably be a striped RAID set. 9 pin firewire is for the new 800 mbit firewire standard. It also has a "normal" 6 pin connector for hooking it up to old trusted 400 mbit firewire. It also has an USB connector. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 19th, 2004, 02:29 PM	#5
Scott Anderson Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 327	One thing I don't understand - whose hard drives are they using? Does Lacie make their own drives? I'm assuming the Big Disk is a single 5.5" 500 GB drive, and the Bigger Disk is 2 of the same. Would it be possible to format the the Bigger Disk as a 500GB Raid to get higher data transfer rates? Where can we find specs on the number of platters, read/write graphs, etc.? I'm certain one of the larger video magazines will do a writeup soon, but I'm impatient.

January 28th, 2004, 01:55 PM	#7
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	I've always heard good things about LaCie drives, but has anybody ever heard anything to the contrary? A couple years ago somene told me to go Western Digital, and it was a lemon. Doesn't reliably sustain 7200 rpms, so I'm shopping around more extensively this time around. I'm tempted to go 2-250's as 1-500 makes me nervous, let alone the 1T as you guys have said. Talk about potential heartbreak under the gun. Marcia

January 30th, 2004, 10:25 AM	#8
Paul Vlachos Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 88	The LaCie 500 Big Disk is two 250s in one enclosure. The 400 is two 200s and the 320 is two 160s. From the form factor, it looks to me like the 1 Terrabyte drive is four 250s. I own a few LaCies, but I like keeping it to the single drive in each enclosure, mainly in the interest of not keeping all my eggs in one basket. I've had hard drives fail in the past - all internal - but it can happen, and I'd rather lose 200 or 250 gigs than 500. As always, it's important to back up everything. __________________ One day at a time.

January 30th, 2004, 05:51 PM	#9
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Interesting Paul, and it clears up which I'm going to order. I've had drives fail when working in a pro bay, and it ain't much fun. I'm now a bit conservative that way, too. Thanks for the feedback.

February 26th, 2004, 01:05 PM	#10
Monte Merritt New Boot Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Utah Posts: 10	Sweet. Too bad you have to use a computer - It'd be great to be able to capture directly to it from your camera. Does anyone know of such a device?

February 27th, 2004, 02:55 AM	#11
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	A couple of those exist indeed Monte. We even have a special forum here for one of them: Focus Enhancements FireStore Then there is also one called the QuickStream. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 28th, 2004, 09:29 AM	#12
Scott Anderson Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 327	Update to Bigger Disk Coming - already. Since this thread has moved back towards the top, I'll post an update that pertains to both the 500 and 1000Gb models. I spoke with a Lacie sales rep Friday, who said the Lacie Big Disk Extreme (new product on the Lacie website) claims transfer rates up to 50% faster than the Big Disk. This is due to moving from the Oxford Semiconductor 922 chipset (usb 2 and firewire 800) to the 912 chipset (firewire 800 only). The price difference is only $30 for the new model. Lacie says to expect a Bigger Disk Extreme in time for NAB (late April), so if the extra speed is going to be an issue and you don't need USB2, you may want to wait on that 1TB monster drive.

February 28th, 2004, 10:35 AM	#13
Marco Leavitt Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albany, NY 12210 Posts: 2,652	The latest issue of DV Magazine has a writeup on these drives by the way, although they don't actually review them.