it's really over! HD-DVD sayonara!

Paul Leung · February 19th, 2008, 04:40 AM

Sayonara!! Rest in peace.

Paul Renting · February 19th, 2008, 04:58 AM

This informative podcast concerning HD-DVD sums it up quite good.

Konrad Haskins · February 19th, 2008, 08:32 AM

http://www.electronichouse.com/artic...dvd_businesses

Ray Bell · February 19th, 2008, 09:06 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080219/.../japan_toshiba

Steven White · February 19th, 2008, 09:31 AM

Well, now that it's all official, I guess I'll just have to wait until I like the 1080p TVs that are out there. They're still not up to the standard I'd like - and I'm hoping that OLEDs will meet the colour requirements I'm aiming for, though I may end up having to purchase an interim TV when they switch to digital broadcast.

Once I get a 1080p set, I will undoubtedly get a Blu-Ray player to take advantage of it - unless someone announces a 4:4:4 1080p format for home viewing (maybe Red will say something about this at NAB?). But I will never be buying a collection of discs. This will be a rental player only, and maybe hooked up for gaming on occasion.

-Steve

Nate Benson · February 19th, 2008, 09:33 AM

I hope Sony sends them a fruitbasket at least, which a note saying:
"Good form, it was a splendid battle"
and in the basket would be a blu-ray player

Jim McQuaid · February 19th, 2008, 11:58 AM

From the Wall St Journal:

Toshiba Exits HD DVD Business,
Ceding Market to Sony's Blu-ray
By YUKARI IWATANI KANE
February 19, 2008 11:37 a.m.

TOKYO -- Blaming the loss of support from a key movie studio, Toshiba Corp. said it is pulling out of the HD DVD business, handing victory to Sony Corp.'s Blu-ray technology in the fierce format war over high-definition DVDs.

Toshiba said Tuesday that it would cease production of its HD DVD players and recorders immediately and close out the business by the end of March.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1203...-Business-News

Jon Fairhurst · February 19th, 2008, 12:03 PM

There could be a silver lining in the press announcement:

> "On Tuesday, Toshiba also formally announced that it will invest more than 1.7 trillion yen to build two flash memory factories.

One will be located in Kitakami, Iwate Prefecture, and the other in Yokkaichi, Mie Prefecture.

The plants are scheduled for completion in 2010. Construction will begin in spring 2009.

Demand for flash memory chips, which are used in digital cameras and other products, is growing worldwide.(IHT/Asahi: February 20,2008)"

This could mean higher densities, faster speeds and lower prices for solid state memory.

Dana Salsbury · February 19th, 2008, 03:54 PM

Here's my conspiracy theory:

Hollywood is the driving force behind the victory of Blu-Ray.
Indy productions are somewhat of a threat to Hollywood's market share.
Blu-Ray, after many years, has no realistic software for indy producers.
Could it be that Blu-Ray is purposefully resisting indy productions?

I don't totally believe this, but the thought did make me wonder...On the flip side it doesn't make sense for Sony to block indy producers since they sell us cameras.

Boyd Ostroff · February 19th, 2008, 03:57 PM

Also in today's Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1203...ub_marketplace

Quote:

But the payoff won't be immediate. For starters, DVD-replication factories that stamp out high-definition discs aren't quite ready for Blu-ray's victory. Just a handful of the plants exist -- not enough to handle the high-definition movie demands of all the major studios. That could mean the studios now backing HD DVD exclusively face delays moving to Blu-ray. Those studios also are trying to negotiate favorable terms, similar to what the studios already committed to Blu-ray got.

Jim McQuaid · February 19th, 2008, 04:37 PM

Conspiracies are wonderful to speculate about. However, I think that ordinary ineptitude is sufficient to explain most of the problems we are seeing.

Personally, I'm not planning to have this part of the HD food chain functionally until late fall of this year, when profile 2.0 is available. And after Apple announces support for blu-ray in DVD SP and elsewhere.

Dana Salsbury · February 19th, 2008, 06:07 PM

Yeah, I think it will speed up the process for us. To me it's a huge bummer that HD DVD didn't win because at least they had their act together for our industry.

Greg Laves · February 19th, 2008, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dana Salsbury

Yeah, I think it will speed up the process for us. To me it's a huge bummer that HD DVD didn't win because at least they had their act together for our industry.

I guess I don't understand what you are referring to when you say HD DVD had their act together for our industry. I have had a Blu-Ray burner for months and have been able to record my HDV video to Blu-Ray without compromising quality. While I never have seen or heard of any HD DVD burner on the market. From the first time I saw some of my HDV footage. My goal has always been "how do I preserve this quality for my clients?" At least Blu-Ray gave me a burner.

Peter Szilveszter · February 20th, 2008, 02:05 AM

Its nice that I have to now worry if my Blu Ray player is up to date and will work with all the functions that its supposed to have and if it play all my dvd's..list goes on

thats my 1/2 cent.

Steve Connor · February 20th, 2008, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Szilveszter

Sad day really new technology thats trying to move forward looses over the old mpeg2 lives on and all because of some dirty tactics of Sony. I know its a proven format but still when will we move forward.

I think you are misinformed there - BOTH systems use EXACTLY the same codecs!

February 19th, 2008, 09:06 AM	#64
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Here's the final news on HDDVD.... its a done deal now http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080219/.../japan_toshiba

February 19th, 2008, 11:58 AM	#67
Jim McQuaid Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Durham, North Carolina Posts: 61	Toshiba has withdrawn from the market From the Wall St Journal: Toshiba Exits HD DVD Business, Ceding Market to Sony's Blu-ray By YUKARI IWATANI KANE February 19, 2008 11:37 a.m. TOKYO -- Blaming the loss of support from a key movie studio, Toshiba Corp. said it is pulling out of the HD DVD business, handing victory to Sony Corp.'s Blu-ray technology in the fierce format war over high-definition DVDs. Toshiba said Tuesday that it would cease production of its HD DVD players and recorders immediately and close out the business by the end of March. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1203...-Business-News __________________ Check out Turnip Films www.turnipfilms.com

February 19th, 2008, 12:03 PM	#68
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	There could be a silver lining in the press announcement: > "On Tuesday, Toshiba also formally announced that it will invest more than 1.7 trillion yen to build two flash memory factories. One will be located in Kitakami, Iwate Prefecture, and the other in Yokkaichi, Mie Prefecture. The plants are scheduled for completion in 2010. Construction will begin in spring 2009. Demand for flash memory chips, which are used in digital cameras and other products, is growing worldwide.(IHT/Asahi: February 20,2008)" This could mean higher densities, faster speeds and lower prices for solid state memory. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

February 19th, 2008, 03:54 PM	#69
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Here's my conspiracy theory: Hollywood is the driving force behind the victory of Blu-Ray. Indy productions are somewhat of a threat to Hollywood's market share. Blu-Ray, after many years, has no realistic software for indy producers. Could it be that Blu-Ray is purposefully resisting indy productions? I don't totally believe this, but the thought did make me wonder...On the flip side it doesn't make sense for Sony to block indy producers since they sell us cameras. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

February 19th, 2008, 04:37 PM	#71
Jim McQuaid Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Durham, North Carolina Posts: 61	conspiracy theories... Conspiracies are wonderful to speculate about. However, I think that ordinary ineptitude is sufficient to explain most of the problems we are seeing. Personally, I'm not planning to have this part of the HD food chain functionally until late fall of this year, when profile 2.0 is available. And after Apple announces support for blu-ray in DVD SP and elsewhere. __________________ Check out Turnip Films www.turnipfilms.com

February 19th, 2008, 04:40 AM	#61
Paul Leung Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 173	Sayonara!! Rest in peace.

February 19th, 2008, 04:58 AM	#62
Paul Renting New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Teuge, Netherlands Posts: 8	This informative podcast concerning HD-DVD sums it up quite good.

February 19th, 2008, 08:32 AM	#63
Konrad Haskins Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 148	http://www.electronichouse.com/artic...dvd_businesses

February 19th, 2008, 09:31 AM	#65
Steven White Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 547	Well, now that it's all official, I guess I'll just have to wait until I like the 1080p TVs that are out there. They're still not up to the standard I'd like - and I'm hoping that OLEDs will meet the colour requirements I'm aiming for, though I may end up having to purchase an interim TV when they switch to digital broadcast. Once I get a 1080p set, I will undoubtedly get a Blu-Ray player to take advantage of it - unless someone announces a 4:4:4 1080p format for home viewing (maybe Red will say something about this at NAB?). But I will never be buying a collection of discs. This will be a rental player only, and maybe hooked up for gaming on occasion. -Steve

February 19th, 2008, 09:33 AM	#66
Nate Benson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Buffalo, New York Posts: 157	I hope Sony sends them a fruitbasket at least, which a note saying: "Good form, it was a splendid battle" and in the basket would be a blu-ray player

February 19th, 2008, 06:07 PM	#72
Dana Salsbury Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 859	Yeah, I think it will speed up the process for us. To me it's a huge bummer that HD DVD didn't win because at least they had their act together for our industry. __________________ www.LegacyHDV.com Weddings \| Corporate \| HMC150s \| FCPX \| Encore \| Lion

February 20th, 2008, 02:05 AM	#74
Peter Szilveszter Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Yeppoon, Queensland Posts: 332	Its nice that I have to now worry if my Blu Ray player is up to date and will work with all the functions that its supposed to have and if it play all my dvd's..list goes on thats my 1/2 cent. __________________ www.livinglens.com.au \| www.livinglens.com.au/blog Last edited by Peter Szilveszter; February 20th, 2008 at 05:33 PM. Reason: usless rant.