Is Shake Dead? at DVinfo.net

Cody Lucido · October 19th, 2006, 08:59 PM

I read in a thread here awhile back that Shake was reduced in price becasue Apple was ending it's life and replacing it with something new. Can anybody elaborate on this?

Louis Maddalena · October 19th, 2006, 09:13 PM

Apple is starting from the ground up and creating a new program. "Shake" may be dead, but Apple in the world of compositing is not.

Cody Lucido · October 19th, 2006, 09:25 PM

Do you have any info on what the new program is and when it will be available? Also, will it be super expensive like Shake used to be?

Chris Hocking · October 20th, 2006, 07:05 PM

See:

- http://www.fxguide.com/article359.html
- http://www.vfxtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6124

Zack Birlew · October 22nd, 2006, 10:14 PM

Why would it matter whether Shake is dead or not? Shake has done INCREDIBLE things in the past and that was before they even released 4.1! Shake is an absolute steal at $500, for now, I wouldn't worry about the next generation application that will take Shake's original spot, besides, that's still a ways off from being released. Enjoy what we've got now.

Chris Hocking · October 22nd, 2006, 10:23 PM

As others have mentioned in other posts elsewhere, the Windows version of Shake is STILL in use in production houses around the world.

Jack is exactly right. Shake is a fantastic product, and any future software will not change that. Shake works, and works well, so people will continue to use it.

Cody Lucido · October 23rd, 2006, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Felis

Why would it matter whether Shake is dead or not? Shake has done INCREDIBLE things in the past and that was before they even released 4.1! Shake is an absolute steal at $500, for now, I wouldn't worry about the next generation application that will take Shake's original spot, besides, that's still a ways off from being released. Enjoy what we've got now.

As someone who has a very limited budget, it matters to me. Dead means no more upgrades, patches or future support. Dropping $500 bucks on dead software is just dumb. I guess I will stick with After Effects.

Nick Jushchyshyn · October 23rd, 2006, 12:05 PM

Not entirely.
Given Apple's pricing history, it's actually probably a really good idea to get Shake now, before a new, higher priced product replaces it.

Take Motion, for example.
It used to sell as a stand-alone package for around $300.
When Apple discontinued it as a stand-alone app made it so the only way to buy (or even upgrade to Universal) it was to but a full copy of Final Cut Studio, they provided a HUGE discount on FCS to Motion owners. As in, get the full, HD $1,300 Final Cut Studio Suite for $200 if you owned Motion.

So, ah, yeah ... a $500 or even $250 investment in Shake right now can payoff bigtime with upgrade deals when the next app comes out.

Besides, the nodal compositing approach you can learn by using Shake is applicable in other high-end compositing environments like Nuke and even XSI's compositing module.

October 19th, 2006, 08:59 PM	#1
Cody Lucido Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 206	Is Shake Dead? I read in a thread here awhile back that Shake was reduced in price becasue Apple was ending it's life and replacing it with something new. Can anybody elaborate on this? __________________ www.CodemanStudios.com

October 19th, 2006, 09:25 PM	#3
Cody Lucido Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 206	Do you have any info on what the new program is and when it will be available? Also, will it be super expensive like Shake used to be? __________________ www.CodemanStudios.com

October 22nd, 2006, 10:14 PM	#5
Zack Birlew Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 613	Why would it matter whether Shake is dead or not? Shake has done INCREDIBLE things in the past and that was before they even released 4.1! Shake is an absolute steal at $500, for now, I wouldn't worry about the next generation application that will take Shake's original spot, besides, that's still a ways off from being released. Enjoy what we've got now. __________________ "Babs Do or Babs Do not, there is no try." - Zack Birlew www.BabsDoProductions.com

October 23rd, 2006, 12:05 PM	#8
Nick Jushchyshyn Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA, USA Posts: 548	Not entirely. Given Apple's pricing history, it's actually probably a really good idea to get Shake now, before a new, higher priced product replaces it. Take Motion, for example. It used to sell as a stand-alone package for around $300. When Apple discontinued it as a stand-alone app made it so the only way to buy (or even upgrade to Universal) it was to but a full copy of Final Cut Studio, they provided a HUGE discount on FCS to Motion owners. As in, get the full, HD $1,300 Final Cut Studio Suite for $200 if you owned Motion. So, ah, yeah ... a $500 or even $250 investment in Shake right now can payoff bigtime with upgrade deals when the next app comes out. Besides, the nodal compositing approach you can learn by using Shake is applicable in other high-end compositing environments like Nuke and even XSI's compositing module. __________________ Nick Jushchyshyn Matchmoving, Compositing, TD imdb

October 19th, 2006, 09:13 PM	#2
Louis Maddalena Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NYC Area. Posts: 550	Apple is starting from the ground up and creating a new program. "Shake" may be dead, but Apple in the world of compositing is not.

October 20th, 2006, 07:05 PM	#4
Chris Hocking Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 595	See: - http://www.fxguide.com/article359.html - http://www.vfxtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6124

October 22nd, 2006, 10:23 PM	#6
Chris Hocking Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 595	As others have mentioned in other posts elsewhere, the Windows version of Shake is STILL in use in production houses around the world. Jack is exactly right. Shake is a fantastic product, and any future software will not change that. Shake works, and works well, so people will continue to use it.