"REWIND" effect for After Effects or FCP. at DVinfo.net

Matias Baridon · August 16th, 2006, 02:14 PM

I am looking for some sort of plugin that will recreate the VHS rewind effect for After Effects or Final Cut Pro.

Anyone heard of something like that?

Glenn Chan · August 16th, 2006, 08:37 PM

Couldn't you just record to VHS, and then record that back into FCP?

Most (but not all) DV cameras can act as a convertor, so you can print to VHS tape, and then use capture now to capture from the VHS tape (disable device control).

That would give VHS quality though, with the analog funkiness and all (is it what you want?).

2- A different approach would be to use the time remapping / velocity envelopes. (Can't remember what they were called.) It's in FCP.

Nick Weeks · August 16th, 2006, 08:42 PM

I like the VHS idea, especially on the old 2-head players!

Matias Baridon · August 29th, 2006, 09:55 PM

I thought there must be a plugin effect that would do the VHS rewind effect without having to actually do it with a VHS.

I didnt try it yet, but I think the VHS will give a strange look, for the image quality of the rewind will be notoriouslly reduced compared to the rest of my footage shot in Beta.

Nick Weeks · August 30th, 2006, 09:31 AM

how about taking black (or some color) video, capture yourself rewinding the video on VHS to FCP, then just overlay (key) the rewind effect on your video?

Chris Chang · August 30th, 2006, 10:49 AM

capturing it would be difficult. i know my analog capture setup captures different than you expect when the vsync goes crazy as it normally does when rewinding VHS.

Djee Smit · September 2nd, 2006, 03:17 AM

I know Tinderbox 3 has some 'tv effects' but I don't think an actual 'rewind' plugin. But is has a function called 'bad tv' which looks a bit like a rewind function I think. If you combine that plugin in combination with reversing the footage, I might look like that, even though I have never tried it.

http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/pkg_plug...2-3FCC03D7530A

On that page you can see a still of that effect beeing used.

Mike Teutsch · September 2nd, 2006, 07:50 AM

I don't know the exact definition of this "rewind" effect is, does it require distorting the footage? If not, I would just reverse the footage and apply a speed change to it.

What exactly are you looking for, you have me interested now?

Mike

Matias Baridon · September 4th, 2006, 10:48 PM

I am looking for the typical horizontal lines that appear at the top and bottom of the video when you rewind or fast forward and old VHS tape... I really dont know any other way to define it, but when you rewind a VHS tape, you do not get a smooth reverse movement,, but the image suffers some displacement, as well as some "noise".

Mike Teutsch · September 5th, 2006, 06:04 AM

Gotcha! Thanks.

Mike

Nick Weeks · September 5th, 2006, 07:00 AM

are you applying this to SD or HD video?

Matias Baridon · September 5th, 2006, 10:25 PM

for this case i was working with SD.

August 16th, 2006, 02:14 PM	#1
Matias Baridon Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay Posts: 52	"REWIND" effect for After Effects or FCP. I am looking for some sort of plugin that will recreate the VHS rewind effect for After Effects or Final Cut Pro. Anyone heard of something like that?

September 2nd, 2006, 03:17 AM	#7
Djee Smit Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Breda, Netherlands Posts: 141	I know Tinderbox 3 has some 'tv effects' but I don't think an actual 'rewind' plugin. But is has a function called 'bad tv' which looks a bit like a rewind function I think. If you combine that plugin in combination with reversing the footage, I might look like that, even though I have never tried it. http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/pkg_plug...2-3FCC03D7530A On that page you can see a still of that effect beeing used. __________________ www.wanah.nl

September 2nd, 2006, 07:50 AM	#8
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	I don't know the exact definition of this "rewind" effect is, does it require distorting the footage? If not, I would just reverse the footage and apply a speed change to it. What exactly are you looking for, you have me interested now? Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

September 5th, 2006, 06:04 AM	#10
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Gotcha! Thanks. Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

August 16th, 2006, 08:37 PM	#2
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Couldn't you just record to VHS, and then record that back into FCP? Most (but not all) DV cameras can act as a convertor, so you can print to VHS tape, and then use capture now to capture from the VHS tape (disable device control). That would give VHS quality though, with the analog funkiness and all (is it what you want?). 2- A different approach would be to use the time remapping / velocity envelopes. (Can't remember what they were called.) It's in FCP.

August 16th, 2006, 08:42 PM	#3
Nick Weeks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 722	I like the VHS idea, especially on the old 2-head players!

August 29th, 2006, 09:55 PM	#4
Matias Baridon Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay Posts: 52	I thought there must be a plugin effect that would do the VHS rewind effect without having to actually do it with a VHS. I didnt try it yet, but I think the VHS will give a strange look, for the image quality of the rewind will be notoriouslly reduced compared to the rest of my footage shot in Beta.

August 30th, 2006, 09:31 AM	#5
Nick Weeks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 722	how about taking black (or some color) video, capture yourself rewinding the video on VHS to FCP, then just overlay (key) the rewind effect on your video?

August 30th, 2006, 10:49 AM	#6
Chris Chang New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: aTx Posts: 15	capturing it would be difficult. i know my analog capture setup captures different than you expect when the vsync goes crazy as it normally does when rewinding VHS.

September 4th, 2006, 10:48 PM	#9
Matias Baridon Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay Posts: 52	I am looking for the typical horizontal lines that appear at the top and bottom of the video when you rewind or fast forward and old VHS tape... I really dont know any other way to define it, but when you rewind a VHS tape, you do not get a smooth reverse movement,, but the image suffers some displacement, as well as some "noise".

September 5th, 2006, 07:00 AM	#11
Nick Weeks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 722	are you applying this to SD or HD video?

September 5th, 2006, 10:25 PM	#12
Matias Baridon Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Montevideo, Uruguay Posts: 52	for this case i was working with SD.