Best plugin to get best Black&white filmlook? at DVinfo.net

Arvid Unsgaard · September 26th, 2007, 01:15 AM

I will do a concert movie soon, with XDCam IMX.

We have U2´s Rattle & Hum as inspiration.

Which plugins do you think I should use?

What about grain?
Leach bypass?

I use FinalCut Studio 2.

And I have today Magic Bullet.

Do you have any other advice.

Emre Safak · September 26th, 2007, 07:50 AM

They shot that on high-grain 16mm. Anyway, you want to increase the contrast and add a whole lot of grain. Plus a bit of halation, from what I can remember (diffuse the highlights).

I'm sure your tools are enough; just practice using them.

Jon Jaschob · September 26th, 2007, 12:22 PM

The "auto-art" setting is a great starting point in MB.
I have found the FX to render less than the preview so you want to adjust it a little heavyer than you want the final to be.
Jon

Arvid Unsgaard · September 27th, 2007, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emre Safak

They shot that on high-grain 16mm. Anyway, you want to increase the contrast and add a whole lot of grain. Plus a bit of halation, from what I can remember (diffuse the highlights).

I'm sure your tools are enough; just practice using them.

Yes they shot it both on 16 and 35. The concert on 35 and the behind - the documentary shoot on 16.

Halation? I never heard that one - do you mean white diffusion.

MB is good. Do you think MB is good for graining?

Daniel Ross · September 27th, 2007, 05:17 AM

Halation is from Silver Halide, a chemical used in the developing process, I think....

Steven Bills · October 8th, 2007, 06:54 PM

If you're using AE, then just desaturate your footage, use levels to crush the blacks, or contrast to increase the whites, and then add grain to the desired amount.

You don't really need any more plug ins than what is available in AE.

SB

EDIT: I just saw that you're using FCS2. The plug ins should be the same as in AE. Or import your footage into Color, and do it all there. Just tweak until you like.

Matthew Ebenezer · November 13th, 2007, 10:43 PM

I purchased the new Magic Bullet Looks a few weeks ago and I'm loving it.

It can produce some really nice black and white looks.

Margus Lillemagi · November 15th, 2007, 07:47 AM

AE internal plug ins are excellent. MB Looks is a good and easy tool. For advance CC I would recommend Synthetic Aperture Color Finesse.

Dave Robinson · November 21st, 2007, 09:35 AM

I heard that you can help get the film noir look by using a red filter on your footage before you convert it to b&w.

Might be wrong but it's what I was told.

September 26th, 2007, 01:15 AM	#1
Arvid Unsgaard Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sweden Posts: 38	Best plugin to get best Black&white filmlook? I will do a concert movie soon, with XDCam IMX. We have U2´s Rattle & Hum as inspiration. Which plugins do you think I should use? What about grain? Leach bypass? I use FinalCut Studio 2. And I have today Magic Bullet. Do you have any other advice.

October 8th, 2007, 06:54 PM	#6
Steven Bills Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vineyard, Utah Posts: 192	If you're using AE, then just desaturate your footage, use levels to crush the blacks, or contrast to increase the whites, and then add grain to the desired amount. You don't really need any more plug ins than what is available in AE. SB EDIT: I just saw that you're using FCS2. The plug ins should be the same as in AE. Or import your footage into Color, and do it all there. Just tweak until you like. Last edited by Steven Bills; October 8th, 2007 at 06:56 PM. Reason: Not reading the first post all the way through

November 15th, 2007, 07:47 AM	#8
Margus Lillemagi Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Overijse, Belgium Posts: 28	AE internal plug ins are excellent. MB Looks is a good and easy tool. For advance CC I would recommend Synthetic Aperture Color Finesse. __________________ Visual-Angle http://www.visual-angle.com

September 26th, 2007, 07:50 AM	#2
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	They shot that on high-grain 16mm. Anyway, you want to increase the contrast and add a whole lot of grain. Plus a bit of halation, from what I can remember (diffuse the highlights). I'm sure your tools are enough; just practice using them.

September 26th, 2007, 12:22 PM	#3
Jon Jaschob Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 232	The "auto-art" setting is a great starting point in MB. I have found the FX to render less than the preview so you want to adjust it a little heavyer than you want the final to be. Jon

September 27th, 2007, 05:17 AM	#5
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	Halation is from Silver Halide, a chemical used in the developing process, I think....

November 13th, 2007, 10:43 PM	#7
Matthew Ebenezer Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toowoomba, Australia Posts: 370	I purchased the new Magic Bullet Looks a few weeks ago and I'm loving it. It can produce some really nice black and white looks.

November 21st, 2007, 09:35 AM	#9
Dave Robinson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conwy, Wales Posts: 208	I heard that you can help get the film noir look by using a red filter on your footage before you convert it to b&w. Might be wrong but it's what I was told.