AE 7 won't turn let me use 32 bpc

K. Tessman · September 18th, 2007, 04:46 PM

You could try starting After Effects with Ctrl+Alt+Shift (on Windows, or Cmd-Option-Shift on Mac) held down, which will recreate the preferences file.

Robert Ducon · September 19th, 2007, 10:49 AM

Thanks everyone - it's working now - I deleted and reinstalled the application!

So, drastic I suppose, but it did fix the problem - you all helped, I wanted you to know that.

Cheers!

Daniel Ross · September 19th, 2007, 11:16 AM

Glad it's working. But no clue what was wrong? I'm curious.

Robert Ducon · October 4th, 2007, 09:31 AM

After Effects now says it's working in 32 bit mode. The filters I apply look a bit smoother than what my original renders looked like. The codec I'll be outputting to is a 10-bit codec (Apple ProRes 422 HQ), and as I've read by Mike Curtis on HD for Indies, TEST and make sure it really is outputting 1024 levels of gray (10 bit) rather than 256 levels of gray (8 bit). Mike's suggested test makes a lot of sense:

"1.) Are you SURE you’re getting 10 bit output from your CS3? Often one has to edit text files to make sure the codec enables 10 bit output - see

http://www.hdforindies.com/2006/06/a...-tips-and.html

2.) If unsure, render a black to white gradient, left to right, on a 1024 pixel wide frame, to your ostensibly 10 bit codec. Bring it back into your AE project. Does each pixel moving right change one pixel in brightness? If they change in jumps every 4 pixels, you’ve got 8 bit output."

So, in AE, working in 32 bit mode, I made a new compostiion and.. what the hell.. even before I render OUT, the grays jump 4 levels every time I move my mouse over one pixel, not 1 level per each pixel move as they should!! I can *see* the banding as well.. what .. this shouldn't even be happening now, only if/when I export. I'm in floating point mode for crissakes!

Todd Kopriva · October 27th, 2007, 11:55 AM

Is this After Effects 7 Standard or Professional?

Here's what the "About color depth" section of After Effects 7 Help says: "In After Effects, you can work in 8-bpc, 16-bpc or 32-bpc color mode for each project; 16-bpc and 32-bpc color modes are available only in After Effects Professional."

BTW, there's no Standard version of After Effects CS3, so this confusion shouldn't happen with the new version.

(Sorry to respond so late, but maybe this will be helpful to someone else with the same issue.)

Robert Ducon · October 30th, 2007, 07:51 PM

Todd, I'm using the Pro version.

John Mitchell · November 2nd, 2007, 07:13 AM

Don''t know enough about Macs but could it be something as simple as your screen resolution (maybe set to 16 bit colour instead of 32)? Seems unlikely...

Apart from that maybe a clash with the driver version of the ATI card you are using - check for the recommended driver on Adobe's site.

Robert Ducon · November 2nd, 2007, 03:52 PM

This problem has existed before the drivers were updated (I installed the new drivers a week ago). Problem still exists. In the new year, I'll install a fresh copy of Leopard - we'll see if this fixes things.

Ray Bell · November 6th, 2007, 09:18 PM

Glad you got it working for you...

September 19th, 2007, 10:49 AM	#17
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	Problem Solved! Thanks everyone - it's working now - I deleted and reinstalled the application! So, drastic I suppose, but it did fix the problem - you all helped, I wanted you to know that. Cheers! __________________ Mac + Canon HV20

October 4th, 2007, 09:31 AM	#19
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	It seems the problems aren't over... After Effects now says it's working in 32 bit mode. The filters I apply look a bit smoother than what my original renders looked like. The codec I'll be outputting to is a 10-bit codec (Apple ProRes 422 HQ), and as I've read by Mike Curtis on HD for Indies, TEST and make sure it really is outputting 1024 levels of gray (10 bit) rather than 256 levels of gray (8 bit). Mike's suggested test makes a lot of sense: "1.) Are you SURE you’re getting 10 bit output from your CS3? Often one has to edit text files to make sure the codec enables 10 bit output - see http://www.hdforindies.com/2006/06/a...-tips-and.html 2.) If unsure, render a black to white gradient, left to right, on a 1024 pixel wide frame, to your ostensibly 10 bit codec. Bring it back into your AE project. Does each pixel moving right change one pixel in brightness? If they change in jumps every 4 pixels, you’ve got 8 bit output." So, in AE, working in 32 bit mode, I made a new compostiion and.. what the hell.. even before I render OUT, the grays jump 4 levels every time I move my mouse over one pixel, not 1 level per each pixel move as they should!! I can see the banding as well.. what .. this shouldn't even be happening now, only if/when I export. I'm in floating point mode for crissakes! __________________ Mac + Canon HV20

October 27th, 2007, 11:55 AM	#20
Todd Kopriva Adobe Systems Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 85	Is this After Effects 7 Standard or Professional? Is this After Effects 7 Standard or Professional? Here's what the "About color depth" section of After Effects 7 Help says: "In After Effects, you can work in 8-bpc, 16-bpc or 32-bpc color mode for each project; 16-bpc and 32-bpc color modes are available only in After Effects Professional." BTW, there's no Standard version of After Effects CS3, so this confusion shouldn't happen with the new version. (Sorry to respond so late, but maybe this will be helpful to someone else with the same issue.) __________________ Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated After Effects quality engineer

October 30th, 2007, 07:51 PM	#21
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	Todd, I'm using the Pro version. __________________ Mac + Canon HV20

November 2nd, 2007, 03:52 PM	#23
Robert Ducon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 400	This problem has existed before the drivers were updated (I installed the new drivers a week ago). Problem still exists. In the new year, I'll install a fresh copy of Leopard - we'll see if this fixes things. __________________ Mac + Canon HV20

September 18th, 2007, 04:46 PM	#16
K. Tessman Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 66	You could try starting After Effects with Ctrl+Alt+Shift (on Windows, or Cmd-Option-Shift on Mac) held down, which will recreate the preferences file.

September 19th, 2007, 11:16 AM	#18
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	Glad it's working. But no clue what was wrong? I'm curious.

November 2nd, 2007, 07:13 AM	#22
John Mitchell Contributor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 873	Don''t know enough about Macs but could it be something as simple as your screen resolution (maybe set to 16 bit colour instead of 32)? Seems unlikely... Apart from that maybe a clash with the driver version of the ATI card you are using - check for the recommended driver on Adobe's site.

November 6th, 2007, 09:18 PM	#24
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Glad you got it working for you...