Glowing/steaming/mist emitting eyes AE CS3 at DVinfo.net

Nathan Quattrini · September 12th, 2007, 02:53 AM

Hard to explain what I mean exactly...but think comic books when characters like Spawn or Cable(xmen) have eyes that glow as well as emit like a colored luminescent mist/smoke that wisps upwards (or is left behind until it vanished when the character moves). With that all attempted to be explained...any suggestions on how to do this with AE CS3 on live actors? I don't have CS3 yet, but will come editing time. Thanks!

Josh Chesarek · September 12th, 2007, 05:02 AM

I have no clue how to do it, but an image to help explain what Nathan wants:

http://spawn.home.sapo.pt/Images/Spawn's_Glowing%20Eyes.jpg

I love the Spawn comics :)

Dave Robinson · September 12th, 2007, 07:35 AM

If you can use 3D Moddeling software you could create an "eye" shaped object and use it a light emitter then set up some volumetric light effects and somehow key that onto your footage in AE7. Not sure if it's a long way round but that's probably where I'd start.

I use 3DS Max and Maya 7.0 btw.

Nathan Quattrini · September 13th, 2007, 12:39 AM

I wil only have AE CS3 and other CS3 studio software to work with. I want it to look something like this, it was done with photoshops screen layer and lots of smudging, so I need to find an emitter or something that I can control in AE to make it an animatable thing. Hopefully won't look as fake either

I ran across 3d Fog (downloaded the CS3 demo) but can`t seem to make it do anything....any ideaS?

Dave Robinson · September 13th, 2007, 04:44 AM

Try and get hold of particle illusion 3.

It's not expensive and would do what you need i think.

Daniel Ross · September 13th, 2007, 06:09 AM

I think particles are the way to go.

However, depending on what you do, enough layers and blending modes, with something generated in photoshop might work. You could use the liquify filter (in AE, not PS) to make it move as well. (Warning-- long render times on liquify often.)

Nathan Quattrini · September 18th, 2007, 10:41 PM

Are there any smoke generators out there? I know Boris used to have fire and smoke, then it came with 6.5 as BCC folders , what about 7? I only downloaded the demo so I don't get everything from the CD. Seems its more of a smoke effect with added glow and transparency that I`m aiming for. Thanks guys

Dave Robinson · September 19th, 2007, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan Quattrini

Are there any smoke generators out there? I know Boris used to have fire and smoke, then it came with 6.5 as BCC folders , what about 7? I only downloaded the demo so I don't get everything from the CD. Seems its more of a smoke effect with added glow and transparency that I`m aiming for. Thanks guys

Yes, Particle Illusion 3, try it out.

Emre Safak · September 19th, 2007, 10:50 AM

Particles combined with color correction and displacement mapping. AE CS3 should be more than enough.

http://www.communitymx.com/content/a....cfm?cid=1A9CF

Dave Robinson · September 19th, 2007, 01:26 PM

Particular might be able to do it too. Think it's by trapcode.

September 12th, 2007, 02:53 AM	#1
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	Glowing/steaming/mist emitting eyes AE CS3 Hard to explain what I mean exactly...but think comic books when characters like Spawn or Cable(xmen) have eyes that glow as well as emit like a colored luminescent mist/smoke that wisps upwards (or is left behind until it vanished when the character moves). With that all attempted to be explained...any suggestions on how to do this with AE CS3 on live actors? I don't have CS3 yet, but will come editing time. Thanks! __________________ Cinematography Site

September 12th, 2007, 05:02 AM	#2
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	I have no clue how to do it, but an image to help explain what Nathan wants: http://spawn.home.sapo.pt/Images/Spawn's_Glowing%20Eyes.jpg I love the Spawn comics :) __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

September 13th, 2007, 12:39 AM	#4
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	I wil only have AE CS3 and other CS3 studio software to work with. I want it to look something like this, it was done with photoshops screen layer and lots of smudging, so I need to find an emitter or something that I can control in AE to make it an animatable thing. Hopefully won't look as fake either I ran across 3d Fog (downloaded the CS3 demo) but can`t seem to make it do anything....any ideaS? __________________ Cinematography Site Last edited by Nathan Quattrini; September 13th, 2007 at 01:59 AM.

September 18th, 2007, 10:41 PM	#7
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	Are there any smoke generators out there? I know Boris used to have fire and smoke, then it came with 6.5 as BCC folders , what about 7? I only downloaded the demo so I don't get everything from the CD. Seems its more of a smoke effect with added glow and transparency that I`m aiming for. Thanks guys __________________ Cinematography Site

September 12th, 2007, 07:35 AM	#3
Dave Robinson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conwy, Wales Posts: 208	If you can use 3D Moddeling software you could create an "eye" shaped object and use it a light emitter then set up some volumetric light effects and somehow key that onto your footage in AE7. Not sure if it's a long way round but that's probably where I'd start. I use 3DS Max and Maya 7.0 btw.

September 13th, 2007, 04:44 AM	#5
Dave Robinson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conwy, Wales Posts: 208	Try and get hold of particle illusion 3. It's not expensive and would do what you need i think.

September 13th, 2007, 06:09 AM	#6
Daniel Ross Major Player Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Marin & Davis, CA, USA Posts: 418	I think particles are the way to go. However, depending on what you do, enough layers and blending modes, with something generated in photoshop might work. You could use the liquify filter (in AE, not PS) to make it move as well. (Warning-- long render times on liquify often.)

September 19th, 2007, 10:50 AM	#9
Emre Safak Trustee Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,447	Particles combined with color correction and displacement mapping. AE CS3 should be more than enough. http://www.communitymx.com/content/a....cfm?cid=1A9CF

September 19th, 2007, 01:26 PM	#10
Dave Robinson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conwy, Wales Posts: 208	Particular might be able to do it too. Think it's by trapcode.