Convergent Design

Dan Keaton · November 24th, 2015, 10:59 AM

Dear Friends,

We are having a sale on our Odyssey Raw Bundle and our Apollo Option for the Odyssey7Q and Odyssey7Q+.

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/great-de...ml#post1903625

Respectfully,

Bill LiPera · November 25th, 2015, 10:53 AM

Love your product. Are any plans for 4K prores 444 for the 7Q and the sony FS700 in the future. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving

Dan Keaton · November 27th, 2015, 02:47 PM

Dear Bill,

From an 8K Sensor, such as the 8K Sensor in a Sony F65, it is possible, without interpolation (inventing data where it does not exist), to obtain 4K RGB 4:4:4.

In the 8K sensor, there are 4096 Red photosites and 4096 Green photosites on the first row of sensor data, and 4096 Green photosites and 4096 Blue Photosites on the next line.

Thus, using two rows of sensor data (individual photosites, each representing one color), you have enough data to create 4K RGB 4:4:4 video.

But, you do not have enough photosites in an 8K Bayer pattern sensor to create 8K RGB 4:4:4.

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For many modern cameras, a single Bayer pattern sensor is used, as opposed to a 3 sensor design.

Now, to get to your question.

With the FS700, we could provide 2K RGB 4:4:4 from the 4K Bayer pattern sensor.

But, we cannot provide 4K RGB 4:4:4 from the 4K Bayer pattern sensor, without interpolating (filling in for the missing data).

Thus, we do not feel that it is desirable to create 4K RGB 4:4:4 from a 4K Bayer pattern sensor at this time.

We might do this one day, if enough of our users want us to do so, and if they understand that we have to fill in for the missing data.

I hope this helps.

Respectfully,

Bill LiPera · November 27th, 2015, 08:59 PM

Thank you so much

Dmitri Zigany · December 11th, 2015, 01:59 AM

Damn, missed the sale.
Guess I have to find a used 7Q. A new 7Q with the additional cost of license, battery plates etc just doesn't make financial sense. If it wasn't for the license cost or if it was significantly lower (I really just need the FS700 raw) I would have bought a new 7Q already.

Unfortunately used units don't show up around here very often...

November 24th, 2015, 10:59 AM	#1
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Convergent Design - Black Friday Sale Dear Friends, We are having a sale on our Odyssey Raw Bundle and our Apollo Option for the Odyssey7Q and Odyssey7Q+. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/great-de...ml#post1903625 Respectfully, __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

November 25th, 2015, 10:53 AM	#2
Bill LiPera Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: St. James New York Posts: 27	Re: Convergent Design - Black Friday Sale Love your product. Are any plans for 4K prores 444 for the 7Q and the sony FS700 in the future. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving

November 27th, 2015, 02:47 PM	#3
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Re: Convergent Design - Black Friday Sale Dear Bill, From an 8K Sensor, such as the 8K Sensor in a Sony F65, it is possible, without interpolation (inventing data where it does not exist), to obtain 4K RGB 4:4:4. In the 8K sensor, there are 4096 Red photosites and 4096 Green photosites on the first row of sensor data, and 4096 Green photosites and 4096 Blue Photosites on the next line. Thus, using two rows of sensor data (individual photosites, each representing one color), you have enough data to create 4K RGB 4:4:4 video. But, you do not have enough photosites in an 8K Bayer pattern sensor to create 8K RGB 4:4:4. ------------------------------------------ For many modern cameras, a single Bayer pattern sensor is used, as opposed to a 3 sensor design. Now, to get to your question. With the FS700, we could provide 2K RGB 4:4:4 from the 4K Bayer pattern sensor. But, we cannot provide 4K RGB 4:4:4 from the 4K Bayer pattern sensor, without interpolating (filling in for the missing data). Thus, we do not feel that it is desirable to create 4K RGB 4:4:4 from a 4K Bayer pattern sensor at this time. We might do this one day, if enough of our users want us to do so, and if they understand that we have to fill in for the missing data. I hope this helps. Respectfully, __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

November 27th, 2015, 08:59 PM	#4
Bill LiPera Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: St. James New York Posts: 27	Re: Convergent Design - Black Friday Sale Thank you so much

December 11th, 2015, 01:59 AM	#5
Dmitri Zigany Major Player Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 286	Re: Convergent Design - Black Friday Sale Damn, missed the sale. Guess I have to find a used 7Q. A new 7Q with the additional cost of license, battery plates etc just doesn't make financial sense. If it wasn't for the license cost or if it was significantly lower (I really just need the FS700 raw) I would have bought a new 7Q already. Unfortunately used units don't show up around here very often... __________________ Sony FS700R (3.10), A7S (2.00), FCPX Sony SEL 35, 50, 18-105mm, Samyang 16 & 35mm cine