Other compressed bitrates? at DVinfo.net

Chris Medico · September 24th, 2014, 11:58 AM

Having the highest bitrates available recording is great. Will there be more modest bitrates coming for those times when the ultimate in quality is not needed?

Ron Aerts · September 24th, 2014, 01:43 PM

Then you just use the internal recording of your cam. Use the 7q for backup

Chris Medico · September 24th, 2014, 02:07 PM

Possible but not so useful for me.

Its a waste of space to record a talking head interview at 10 bit 220mB/s when the camera outputs 8bit in HD. Using the 7q as backup is still a waste of drive space at these higher bitrates and provides me no other benefit than safety. I would prefer to record to the 7q as primary and use the AVCHD in camera as safety.

When I'm on the road editing the laptop is a much happier with ProRes or DNxHD versus AVCHD and transcoding. It is beneficial for me to have something in the 100-150mB/s range to minimize storage space requirements while retaining reasonable image quality and edit friendly codecs.

You may not find value in this scenario but it is helpful for me. It is also why my go-to recorder is still the PIX240. I've not recorded a single frame of video with the 7q even after owning it for almost a year.

Dave Sperling · September 26th, 2014, 06:34 PM

For 8 bit 4:2:2 recording my old NanoFlash is still a go-to choice for convenience, flexibility, and high quality, high efficiency codecs. I may have newer, 'fancier' recorders, but somehow the old Nanoflash is still the best choice for certain jobs/clients!

Dan Keaton · September 27th, 2014, 10:17 PM

Dear Chris,

We will be adding other bit-rate flavors of Apple ProRes 422.

But, our priority has been adding 4K Apple ProRes 422, as this helps so many people, expanding ability of many to record 4K in reasonable file sizes.

And we are working on an RGB 4:4:4 compressed codec.

Respectfully,

Karl Kim · September 29th, 2014, 06:02 PM

Well I'm all for a compressed RGB 444 codec, hopefully 12 bit.

Noah Yuan-Vogel · October 2nd, 2014, 11:31 PM

Prores LT seems like a great balance and more than enough for a lot of projects. It will definitely ve a sweetspot for 4k which is otherwise rather large for HQ or even 422. I've heard the 7q will get LT, but I'd definitely make it a high priority with 4k prores right around the corner.

September 24th, 2014, 11:58 AM	#1
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Other compressed bitrates? Having the highest bitrates available recording is great. Will there be more modest bitrates coming for those times when the ultimate in quality is not needed? __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

September 24th, 2014, 01:43 PM	#2
Ron Aerts Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Drachten, Netherlands Posts: 179	Re: Other compressed bitrates? Then you just use the internal recording of your cam. Use the 7q for backup

September 24th, 2014, 02:07 PM	#3
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Other compressed bitrates? Possible but not so useful for me. Its a waste of space to record a talking head interview at 10 bit 220mB/s when the camera outputs 8bit in HD. Using the 7q as backup is still a waste of drive space at these higher bitrates and provides me no other benefit than safety. I would prefer to record to the 7q as primary and use the AVCHD in camera as safety. When I'm on the road editing the laptop is a much happier with ProRes or DNxHD versus AVCHD and transcoding. It is beneficial for me to have something in the 100-150mB/s range to minimize storage space requirements while retaining reasonable image quality and edit friendly codecs. You may not find value in this scenario but it is helpful for me. It is also why my go-to recorder is still the PIX240. I've not recorded a single frame of video with the 7q even after owning it for almost a year. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

September 26th, 2014, 06:34 PM	#4
Dave Sperling Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tinton Falls, NJ Posts: 780	Re: Other compressed bitrates? For 8 bit 4:2:2 recording my old NanoFlash is still a go-to choice for convenience, flexibility, and high quality, high efficiency codecs. I may have newer, 'fancier' recorders, but somehow the old Nanoflash is still the best choice for certain jobs/clients!

September 27th, 2014, 10:17 PM	#5
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Re: Other compressed bitrates? Dear Chris, We will be adding other bit-rate flavors of Apple ProRes 422. But, our priority has been adding 4K Apple ProRes 422, as this helps so many people, expanding ability of many to record 4K in reasonable file sizes. And we are working on an RGB 4:4:4 compressed codec. Respectfully, __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

September 29th, 2014, 06:02 PM	#6
Karl Kim New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Holmdel, NJ Posts: 11	Re: Other compressed bitrates? Well I'm all for a compressed RGB 444 codec, hopefully 12 bit.

October 2nd, 2014, 11:31 PM	#7
Noah Yuan-Vogel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 613	Re: Other compressed bitrates? Prores LT seems like a great balance and more than enough for a lot of projects. It will definitely ve a sweetspot for 4k which is otherwise rather large for HQ or even 422. I've heard the 7q will get LT, but I'd definitely make it a high priority with 4k prores right around the corner.