10 day roadtrip with NF & Sony Vegas. Metadata

Magnus Helander · November 7th, 2010, 08:22 AM

I'm preparing a 10 day roadtrip with (camcorders, audiorecorders and...) the NanoFlash on an EX3.

I will offload the CF cards to a portable RAID1 unit attached to a laptop, and rough edits will be prepared every night with Sony Vegas.

Is the XDCAM viewer the best tool for adding metadata as I transfer the CF cards to the RAID unit?

If anyone here can share experiences of logging and adding metadata to large amount of footage taken on-the-run it would be very interesting. With "metadata" I'm thinking "where was this shot", "who's in front of the camera", "location" (in car/indoors/outdoors etc) and good/NG.

The backup/secondary camcorder is the surprisingly capable Sanyo Xacti VPC CA-100 (with a large number of extra batteries) It records AVCHD in MP4 wrapper on SDHC. If these files could be included in the metadata workflow as well it would be outstanding.

Thanks!
Magnus

Piotr Wozniacki · November 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM

If you're using Vegas Pro, I think you should try the tool you already have - the Vegas Media Manager.

Magnus Helander · November 8th, 2010, 12:39 AM

A media manager in Vegas! I must petition Sony for a "feature freeze" in Vegas, I can't keep up!
Was just getting used to the mixer from v8... now I remember, there's this database-driven window with tags that you drop on clips.. As I remember the v1 of media manager it was slightly obnoxious - it would add any media Vegas touched to the DB, and I couldn't keep a clean DB and control what went into the media pool, maybe this behavior can be changed somewhere

Will test this today, thanks! /m

Bob Grant · November 8th, 2010, 06:39 AM

Unfortunately metadata and Vegas is a non event.
The clipbrowser offers a simple enough way to edit the EX metadata but I'm yet to see any way to access this in Vegas. I believe it's stored in simple enough to read XML files, perhaps someone could write an extension to Vegas to access this data.
Other data I believe is stored within the MP4 file itself. That might be trickier to access.

Magnus Helander · November 8th, 2010, 08:16 PM

Has anyone had any experience with a software called "theScribe"

According to the website it

Quote:

is the ideal tool to play your MXF and GXF files in your desktop. It allows you to annotate any MXF files with rich metadata descriptions enabling you to organise your assets and to quickly integrate your MXF devices in your workflow.

MOG Solutions - the MXF experts

November 7th, 2010, 08:22 AM	#1
Magnus Helander Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 221	10 day roadtrip with NF & Sony Vegas. Metadata - best practice? I'm preparing a 10 day roadtrip with (camcorders, audiorecorders and...) the NanoFlash on an EX3. I will offload the CF cards to a portable RAID1 unit attached to a laptop, and rough edits will be prepared every night with Sony Vegas. Is the XDCAM viewer the best tool for adding metadata as I transfer the CF cards to the RAID unit? If anyone here can share experiences of logging and adding metadata to large amount of footage taken on-the-run it would be very interesting. With "metadata" I'm thinking "where was this shot", "who's in front of the camera", "location" (in car/indoors/outdoors etc) and good/NG. The backup/secondary camcorder is the surprisingly capable Sanyo Xacti VPC CA-100 (with a large number of extra batteries) It records AVCHD in MP4 wrapper on SDHC. If these files could be included in the metadata workflow as well it would be outstanding. Thanks! Magnus __________________ Magnus Helander, Crossmediageek on G+ Last edited by Magnus Helander; November 7th, 2010 at 08:23 AM. Reason: Grammar

November 7th, 2010, 01:11 PM	#2
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	If you're using Vegas Pro, I think you should try the tool you already have - the Vegas Media Manager. __________________ Sony PXW-FS7 \| DaVinci Resolve Studio; Magix Vegas Pro; i7-5960X CPU; 64 GB RAM; 2x GTX 1080 8GB GPU; Decklink 4K Extreme 12G; 4x 3TB WD Black in RAID 0; 1TB M.2 NVMe cache drive

November 8th, 2010, 12:39 AM	#3
Magnus Helander Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 221	No more features! A media manager in Vegas! I must petition Sony for a "feature freeze" in Vegas, I can't keep up! Was just getting used to the mixer from v8... now I remember, there's this database-driven window with tags that you drop on clips.. As I remember the v1 of media manager it was slightly obnoxious - it would add any media Vegas touched to the DB, and I couldn't keep a clean DB and control what went into the media pool, maybe this behavior can be changed somewhere Will test this today, thanks! /m __________________ Magnus Helander, Crossmediageek on G+

November 8th, 2010, 06:39 AM	#4
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	Unfortunately metadata and Vegas is a non event. The clipbrowser offers a simple enough way to edit the EX metadata but I'm yet to see any way to access this in Vegas. I believe it's stored in simple enough to read XML files, perhaps someone could write an extension to Vegas to access this data. Other data I believe is stored within the MP4 file itself. That might be trickier to access.