Current Status of Artifacts in Vegas 9 ? at DVinfo.net

William Urschel · June 11th, 2010, 08:08 PM

I understand that the latest rendition of Vegas is version 9.0e, and that for editing nanoFlash files, everything has been "fixed" except the "few" green frames at the beginning of each clip. Two questions for those of you actually using Vegas 9.0e with files of 1080x1920 30p, 60i, or 24p at 100Mbps, Long GOP:

1) Approximately how many beginning green frames are there (constant or varied), and once trimmed, are they green free in the timeline (whoops, three questions there!), and,

2) Is the resulting export from the timeline artifact free (free of gross anomolies, interline flicker, black frames, etc.), for all intents and purposes?

Piotr Wozniacki · June 12th, 2010, 01:06 AM

William,

Nothing has really changed since what I wrote at the end of this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/converge...egas-9-0c.html

To answer your specific questions:

ad 1: there are usually 2 green frames at the beginning of Long-GoP mxf files, and yes they can be trimmed off

ad 2: fortunately, even if you don't trim the green frames off, after recompression (even just smart render to mxf) the output files are clean.

This is nevertheless a real PITA to work with such clips. I usually do multicamera projects of live classical music performances, and use the Multicamera timeline in Vegas. As you know, selecting angles consists in splitting clips and defining "takes"; if three or more clips are placed on top of one another, the green frames make it very easy to get lost!

Ron Aerts · June 14th, 2010, 11:46 AM

YouTube - Sesame Street: Kermit Sings Being Green

;)

I use Vegas 9.0b for those few frames I really hav to use
But rudely said: this problem sucks
I gave up, I'm not using the NF anymore, only for MPEG backup files.
The BlackMagic HDextreme gives easily the best results, even in compressed mode.
I can only hope CD and Sony come up with a solution soon.

Bob Grant · June 17th, 2010, 07:22 AM

I would not blame green or red frames on the NF.
Rendering 50Mbps MXF out of Vegas and bringing it back into Vegas you can get the same problem.

June 11th, 2010, 08:08 PM	#1
William Urschel Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bee Cave, Texas Posts: 151	Current Status of Artifacts in Vegas 9 ? I understand that the latest rendition of Vegas is version 9.0e, and that for editing nanoFlash files, everything has been "fixed" except the "few" green frames at the beginning of each clip. Two questions for those of you actually using Vegas 9.0e with files of 1080x1920 30p, 60i, or 24p at 100Mbps, Long GOP: 1) Approximately how many beginning green frames are there (constant or varied), and once trimmed, are they green free in the timeline (whoops, three questions there!), and, 2) Is the resulting export from the timeline artifact free (free of gross anomolies, interline flicker, black frames, etc.), for all intents and purposes?

June 12th, 2010, 01:06 AM	#2
Piotr Wozniacki Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 4,086	William, Nothing has really changed since what I wrote at the end of this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/converge...egas-9-0c.html To answer your specific questions: ad 1: there are usually 2 green frames at the beginning of Long-GoP mxf files, and yes they can be trimmed off ad 2: fortunately, even if you don't trim the green frames off, after recompression (even just smart render to mxf) the output files are clean. This is nevertheless a real PITA to work with such clips. I usually do multicamera projects of live classical music performances, and use the Multicamera timeline in Vegas. As you know, selecting angles consists in splitting clips and defining "takes"; if three or more clips are placed on top of one another, the green frames make it very easy to get lost! __________________ Sony PXW-FS7 \| DaVinci Resolve Studio; Magix Vegas Pro; i7-5960X CPU; 64 GB RAM; 2x GTX 1080 8GB GPU; Decklink 4K Extreme 12G; 4x 3TB WD Black in RAID 0; 1TB M.2 NVMe cache drive

June 14th, 2010, 11:46 AM	#3
Ron Aerts Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Drachten, Netherlands Posts: 179	YouTube - Sesame Street: Kermit Sings Being Green ;) I use Vegas 9.0b for those few frames I really hav to use But rudely said: this problem sucks I gave up, I'm not using the NF anymore, only for MPEG backup files. The BlackMagic HDextreme gives easily the best results, even in compressed mode. I can only hope CD and Sony come up with a solution soon.

June 17th, 2010, 07:22 AM	#4
Bob Grant Trustee Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,570	I would not blame green or red frames on the NF. Rendering 50Mbps MXF out of Vegas and bringing it back into Vegas you can get the same problem.