Definitive compatibility matrix?

David Cherniack · November 19th, 2009, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Cronin

I agree this would only be valid if CD ran the show.

Agreed. Our value would be to provide our various post systems at their request.

Paul Steinberg · November 20th, 2009, 06:28 AM

Well we'll see what the CD folks do.

I'm assuming that this matrix will need to refreshed with every firmware version. Without such a matrix those of us without a closed production/post-production loop will have to shoot a series of files on the Nanoflash covering the compression/bit rate combo's we're contemplating using and ship them to the client for post's approval. Failing to do that seems like really playing Russian Roulette with a job.

Mark Job · November 20th, 2009, 09:31 AM

Hi Paul:
Yup ! You've hit the nail squarely on its head with you statement above. Right now, the safest thing to do is shoot I-Frame, because many of the NLE's can handle this kind of file (Avid, FCP, Vegas, but not sure about Adobe Premiere. (??) ) You *can* shoot Long GOP 50 Mbps and have it work fine in Avid. Long GOP 50 looks pretty darn good as well.

Dan Keaton · November 20th, 2009, 02:23 PM

Dear Friends,

We do not believe that Sony Vegas supports our I-Frame Only modes at this time.

Aaron Newsome · November 21st, 2009, 01:28 PM

So get this, the 100Mbs LongGOP do NOT work on my G4 mac.

That is, identical copies of Final Cut, Mac OS version and everything, clips work fine on my intel macs, but the clips look ruined on my G4. I don't think we can put processor types and OS versions into a matrix. It would literally get to be a huge matrix at that point, as if it wasn't already.

Dave Chalmers · November 22nd, 2009, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Cronin

I agree this would only be valid if CD ran the show.

I'm not sure I see the problem with a user-generated compatibility matrix, provided it has suitable caveats.
Given that we're already motivated here to help out other users with tech support to take the load off CD, why not this as well.

I guess I would rather CD got on with developing cool new features and that we crowd-sourced the compatibility matrix here!!

I can envisage something that works like the various wiki sites for app compatibility (the one for Snow Leopard is a good example)

So someone donates some webspace (or we set up a public wiki page somewhere) and makes a table showing NLE's (with version nos) on one axis and Nano shooting modes on the other. Each box gets either 'Good' which means multiple people report no issues, 'OK' which means some success reported but also some issues, or 'Bad' which means no-one is reporting that it works.

Interested users contribute results via email, or if a wiki page edit directly.

If you want to get fancy you could hyperlink out of the box text to a log page with all the email text so folk can pick through the details.

Anyone else up to for this?

Dave C

Dan Keaton · November 22nd, 2009, 03:28 AM

Dear Dave,

We are actively working on a new website.

I will be happy to keep the matrix as an integral part of our website.

I have already planned for a webpage for this matrix.

Paul Cronin · November 22nd, 2009, 09:25 AM

Thanks Dan I would prefer CD to be in charge to assure accuracy.

Dave Chalmers · November 22nd, 2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Keaton

Dear Dave,

We are actively working on a new website.

I will be happy to keep the matrix as an integral part of our website.

I have already planned for a webpage for this matrix.

OK, no worries Dan. Just keen to help, but happy for you guys to manage this.

Regards

Dave C

November 20th, 2009, 06:28 AM	#17
Paul Steinberg Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 50	Well we'll see what the CD folks do. I'm assuming that this matrix will need to refreshed with every firmware version. Without such a matrix those of us without a closed production/post-production loop will have to shoot a series of files on the Nanoflash covering the compression/bit rate combo's we're contemplating using and ship them to the client for post's approval. Failing to do that seems like really playing Russian Roulette with a job. __________________ Paul Steinberg DP, Toronto \|+\|Canada

November 20th, 2009, 02:23 PM	#19
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Friends, We do not believe that Sony Vegas supports our I-Frame Only modes at this time. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

November 22nd, 2009, 03:28 AM	#22
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Dave, We are actively working on a new website. I will be happy to keep the matrix as an integral part of our website. I have already planned for a webpage for this matrix. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

November 22nd, 2009, 09:25 AM	#23
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	Thanks Dan I would prefer CD to be in charge to assure accuracy. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

November 20th, 2009, 09:31 AM	#18
Mark Job Trustee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,138	Hi Paul: Yup ! You've hit the nail squarely on its head with you statement above. Right now, the safest thing to do is shoot I-Frame, because many of the NLE's can handle this kind of file (Avid, FCP, Vegas, but not sure about Adobe Premiere. (??) ) You can shoot Long GOP 50 Mbps and have it work fine in Avid. Long GOP 50 looks pretty darn good as well.

November 21st, 2009, 01:28 PM	#20
Aaron Newsome Major Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita Posts: 590	So get this, the 100Mbs LongGOP do NOT work on my G4 mac. That is, identical copies of Final Cut, Mac OS version and everything, clips work fine on my intel macs, but the clips look ruined on my G4. I don't think we can put processor types and OS versions into a matrix. It would literally get to be a huge matrix at that point, as if it wasn't already.