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Dean Harrington · September 22nd, 2009, 07:20 PM

I believe time&date stamp is not possible at this time but if not, why not?

Dean Harrington · September 23rd, 2009, 05:28 AM

what about date & time stamp?

Dan Keaton · September 23rd, 2009, 07:40 AM

Dear Dean,

I need to check on this.

In the middle of the night I did not have time to run a test.

We should be putting a date and time stamp in the file header, and by this I mean the file header which is part of the computer's operating system.

Are you speaking of a date and time in the file header of the Quicktime or MXF file?

We have a clock in the Flash XDR and nanoFlash, so we know the date and time.

Dean Harrington · September 23rd, 2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Keaton

Dear Dean,

I need to check on this.

In the middle of the night I did not have time to run a test.

We should be putting a date and time stamp in the file header, and by this I mean the file header which is part of the computer's operating system.

Are you speaking of a date and time in the file header of the Quicktime or MXF file?

We have a clock in the Flash XDR and nanoFlash, so we know the date and time.

I was thinking more of a time and date stamp on the video window ... lower right hand corner. Good for police work. It would make the nano ... well, interesting for this type of investigating work.

Dan Keaton · September 23rd, 2009, 08:24 AM

Dear Dean,

Thanks for the clarification.

I am sorry, but we are not setup to burn in the date and time onto the video.

We will be offering a GPS module and GPS support so that each frame will have the location. I feel that we could also include the date and time, as data associated with each frame.

Aaron Newsome · September 23rd, 2009, 11:34 AM

Hi Dean. I recommend you set the recorder to use current time as the timecode format and then you use your NLE to burn in date and time overlay on the video picture. In FCP this is a timecode reader filter, if I recall correctly.

John Richard · September 23rd, 2009, 03:26 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe for survelliance video to be admissable as evidence in court, it can only be submitted in it's original format. Adding timecode or date/time data in an NLE may prohibit it from being submitted as evidence.

I am by no means an expert on this however.

Dean Harrington · September 23rd, 2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by John Richard

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe for survelliance video to be admissable as evidence in court, it can only be submitted in it's original format. Adding timecode or date/time data in an NLE may prohibit it from being submitted as evidence.

I am by no means an expert on this however.

While all law enforcement (I don't work for them by the way) are NOT required to have date and time stamp on video evidence used in court ... they are encouraged to do so when possible. This is certainly true when conducting depositions of witnesses (those who cannot be present) for a trial. Each State has it's own rules on the subject but you are increasingly seeing date&time stamps on videos used for legal purposes. If the date&time are recorded in the original recording then it is highly likely to be excepted by a court of law.

Dean Harrington · September 23rd, 2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Keaton

Dear Dean,

Thanks for the clarification.

I am sorry, but we are not setup to burn in the date and time onto the video.

We will be offering a GPS module and GPS support so that each frame will have the location. I feel that we could also include the date and time, as data associated with each frame.

That would probably do the trick!

Dan Keaton · September 24th, 2009, 06:12 PM

Dear Dean,

I can confirm that our GPS support will include:

Date
Time
Location

This data will be recorded in such a manner that it will be recorded as data, and not as a visible overlay.

We will have tools available to make use of this data.

I know many would like for us to burn this data into the image. This does have the flexibility of recording this data, even when one does not want the full frame image to be modified in any way.

While we understand the need for many to have this data burned into the image, this is not practical for us at this time.

Dean Harrington · September 24th, 2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Keaton

Dear Dean,

I can confirm that our GPS support will include:

Date
Time
Location

This data will be recorded in such a manner that it will be recorded as data, and not as a visible overlay.

We will have tools available to make use of this data.

I know many would like for us to burn this data into the image. This does have the flexibility of recording this data, even when one does not want the full frame image to be modified in any way.

While we understand the need for many to have this data burned into the image, this is not practical for us at this time.

it was just a thought.

Dan Keaton · September 24th, 2009, 07:09 PM

Dear Dean,

We would love to be able to burn the data into the image.

We have to be cautious in not using up too much processing power or too much program memory.

After we have all of the features that we promised implemented, then we just might be able to reconsider your request.

September 22nd, 2009, 07:20 PM	#1
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	time & date stamp ... I believe time&date stamp is not possible at this time but if not, why not?

September 23rd, 2009, 05:28 AM	#2
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	Dan & Mike ... what about date & time stamp?

September 23rd, 2009, 07:40 AM	#3
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Dean, I need to check on this. In the middle of the night I did not have time to run a test. We should be putting a date and time stamp in the file header, and by this I mean the file header which is part of the computer's operating system. Are you speaking of a date and time in the file header of the Quicktime or MXF file? We have a clock in the Flash XDR and nanoFlash, so we know the date and time. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

September 23rd, 2009, 08:24 AM	#5
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Dean, Thanks for the clarification. I am sorry, but we are not setup to burn in the date and time onto the video. We will be offering a GPS module and GPS support so that each frame will have the location. I feel that we could also include the date and time, as data associated with each frame. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

September 24th, 2009, 06:12 PM	#10
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Dean, I can confirm that our GPS support will include: Date Time Location This data will be recorded in such a manner that it will be recorded as data, and not as a visible overlay. We will have tools available to make use of this data. I know many would like for us to burn this data into the image. This does have the flexibility of recording this data, even when one does not want the full frame image to be modified in any way. While we understand the need for many to have this data burned into the image, this is not practical for us at this time. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

September 23rd, 2009, 11:34 AM	#6
Aaron Newsome Major Player Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita Posts: 590	Hi Dean. I recommend you set the recorder to use current time as the timecode format and then you use your NLE to burn in date and time overlay on the video picture. In FCP this is a timecode reader filter, if I recall correctly.

September 23rd, 2009, 03:26 PM	#7
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe for survelliance video to be admissable as evidence in court, it can only be submitted in it's original format. Adding timecode or date/time data in an NLE may prohibit it from being submitted as evidence. I am by no means an expert on this however.

September 24th, 2009, 07:09 PM	#12
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Dean, We would love to be able to burn the data into the image. We have to be cautious in not using up too much processing power or too much program memory. After we have all of the features that we promised implemented, then we just might be able to reconsider your request. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia