Nano Flash battery mounting

Alister Chapman · June 28th, 2009, 12:35 PM

You would simply directly connect the 5 pins on the IDX male plate to the 5 pins on the V-mount female plate (the one the goes on to the camera). Power for the nanoflash can simple be taken as a tap from the direct connection, or by using the D tap on the IDX plate. The more I think about this the more I like it as I will also be able to use the nanoflash as a standalone device powered by one of my V-Locks.

I made some of my own V-lock batteries a few years back. I still have the moulds to cast my own V-Mount plates (battery type). I might have to dig them out and get some more liquid plastic resin to knock up a few.

Dan Keaton · June 28th, 2009, 12:47 PM

Dear Alister and Steve,

We have been working with IDX.

We have an IDX V-Mount plate that can be used to connect to a V-Mount battery, and thus power the nanoFlash.

This V-Mount plate is much larger than the nanoFlash and is probably overkill for the 5.6 watts that the nanoFlash needs.

For the Flash XDR, this is a much more viable solution, as the size is closer to the size of the Flash XDR, in my humble opinion.

But, we are open to making almost anything that our customers want.

Steve Phillipps · June 28th, 2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

You would simply directly connect the 5 pins on the IDX male plate to the 5 pins on the V-mount female plate (the one the goes on to the camera). Power for the nanoflash can simple be taken as a tap from the direct connection, or by using the D tap on the IDX plate. .

But where would the power from the camera come from? If the camera's battery is on a V-lock mkunt on the back of the Nanoflash, how does it send power to the camera?
Steve

Alister Chapman · June 29th, 2009, 01:32 AM

Of course the problem with sandwiching the nanoflash between camera and battery means you can't see the LCD. Hmm have to think some more.

James Huenergardt · June 29th, 2009, 02:41 AM

What about something that uses the Sony BP-U30 batteries all of us EX people have laying around? I have 3 of them.

Steve Phillipps · June 29th, 2009, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

Of course the problem with sandwiching the nanoflash between camera and battery means you can't see the LCD. Hmm have to think some more.

Check out that E-241 plate. It mounts on the camera and then 2 batteries slot in sideways, one above the other. I can envisage the battery (or 2 stacked) on the bottom mount and the Nano on the top one, with the LCD facing outwards, the CF slots at the top and the connectors at left. I really do like the idea of the battery sticking out a bit and protecting/shielding the Nano a bit.

Steve

Dan Keaton · June 29th, 2009, 07:17 AM

Dear James,

I suggest that you check out Dolgin Engineering's EX-V Adapter.

With the right connector, this should work well with the nanoFlash.

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James Huenergardt · June 29th, 2009, 09:55 PM

Very good. Looks like they have a mini hirose connection too.

Jim

Dan Keaton · June 30th, 2009, 03:21 AM

Dear James,

I did not know that Dolgin offers their EX-V adapter with a 4-Pin Female Hirose connector?

Where did you see that listed, or did you call Dolgin Engineering?

Please note that we have a 4-Pin Male Hirose connector on the nanoFlash itself, and we require a 4-Pin Female Hirose connector on the battery adapter.

While this may seem backwards, we do this for long-term reliability reasons.

Jeff Silverman · June 30th, 2009, 05:19 AM

Actually the overall reason for a for a 4 pin Hirose female on the power supply side of the connection is due to the convention that it is poor practice to have energized male pins on any connector. We have found the Hirose connector to be an extremely reliable locking connector and it is easy to work on.

If anyone needs a connector changed on an existing power supply from anything else to a 4 pin Hirose or a 4 pin XLR (for the XDR) I can modify them, and do it very quickly, or build something new. We have piles of those connectors lying around (as well as Power Taps, and other combinations).

Jeff

June 28th, 2009, 12:35 PM	#16
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	You would simply directly connect the 5 pins on the IDX male plate to the 5 pins on the V-mount female plate (the one the goes on to the camera). Power for the nanoflash can simple be taken as a tap from the direct connection, or by using the D tap on the IDX plate. The more I think about this the more I like it as I will also be able to use the nanoflash as a standalone device powered by one of my V-Locks. I made some of my own V-lock batteries a few years back. I still have the moulds to cast my own V-Mount plates (battery type). I might have to dig them out and get some more liquid plastic resin to knock up a few. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

June 28th, 2009, 12:47 PM	#17
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Alister and Steve, We have been working with IDX. We have an IDX V-Mount plate that can be used to connect to a V-Mount battery, and thus power the nanoFlash. This V-Mount plate is much larger than the nanoFlash and is probably overkill for the 5.6 watts that the nanoFlash needs. For the Flash XDR, this is a much more viable solution, as the size is closer to the size of the Flash XDR, in my humble opinion. But, we are open to making almost anything that our customers want. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

June 29th, 2009, 01:32 AM	#19
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Of course the problem with sandwiching the nanoflash between camera and battery means you can't see the LCD. Hmm have to think some more. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

June 29th, 2009, 02:41 AM	#20
James Huenergardt Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA Posts: 513	What about something that uses the Sony BP-U30 batteries all of us EX people have laying around? I have 3 of them. __________________ Reel Inspirations - www.reelinspirations.com Commercials, Dramas, Image Pieces, Documentaries, Motion Graphics

June 29th, 2009, 07:17 AM	#22
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear James, I suggest that you check out Dolgin Engineering's EX-V Adapter. With the right connector, this should work well with the nanoFlash. Untitled Document __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

June 29th, 2009, 09:55 PM	#23
James Huenergardt Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA Posts: 513	Very good. Looks like they have a mini hirose connection too. Jim __________________ Reel Inspirations - www.reelinspirations.com Commercials, Dramas, Image Pieces, Documentaries, Motion Graphics

June 30th, 2009, 03:21 AM	#24
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear James, I did not know that Dolgin offers their EX-V adapter with a 4-Pin Female Hirose connector? Where did you see that listed, or did you call Dolgin Engineering? Please note that we have a 4-Pin Male Hirose connector on the nanoFlash itself, and we require a 4-Pin Female Hirose connector on the battery adapter. While this may seem backwards, we do this for long-term reliability reasons. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

June 30th, 2009, 05:19 AM	#25
Jeff Silverman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Jacksonville, VT USA Posts: 100	Actually the overall reason for a for a 4 pin Hirose female on the power supply side of the connection is due to the convention that it is poor practice to have energized male pins on any connector. We have found the Hirose connector to be an extremely reliable locking connector and it is easy to work on. If anyone needs a connector changed on an existing power supply from anything else to a 4 pin Hirose or a 4 pin XLR (for the XDR) I can modify them, and do it very quickly, or build something new. We have piles of those connectors lying around (as well as Power Taps, and other combinations). Jeff