XL H1 Mount for Flash XDR

Dan Keaton · March 18th, 2009, 08:02 PM

Dear Michael,

We are working on that.

We have been working with IDX to obtain the proper adapter.

The Flash XDR has screw holes in the IDX pattern on the back just for that purpose.

John Richard · March 19th, 2009, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyge Floyd

How much does the Flash XDR, mount and Dionic 90 battery weigh?
Same question for the nanoFlash?

The XDR is easily TWICE as large as I had imagined.
I hope the nanoFlash is truly nano in scale.

Complete details on the upcoming Nano can be found at HDV To HD-SDI Video Converters Professional Video Equipment HDMI To HD-SDI Television Studio Equipment

It is reported to fit in the palm of your hand and much, much smaller that the XDR.
But it only has half the recording time (2 CF slots vs 4; no analog XLR ... but does have HDMI in/out which the XDR does not)

Tyge Floyd · March 19th, 2009, 01:59 PM

Thanks, John, for the link but I'm fully aware of the URL for their web site. I've spent quite a bit of time there over the last several months and still do not know what these units and the adapters/batteries weigh or how big the units are until I see them compared to a camera or another object.

It's pretty important to me to know these things in order to make an informed buyer's decision.

Dan Keaton · March 19th, 2009, 03:07 PM

Dear Tyge,

Here are the sizes:

Flash XDR:

8” (L) x 6” (W) x 2.5”(H), (203 x 152 x 63 mm), 2.7 lbs (1.3 kg)

nanoFlash

4.1” (L) x 3.7” (W) x 1.375” (H) (106x94x35mm), 1 lb. (0.4 Kg)

Here is the info on the Dionic 90 Battery:

Digital DIONIC 90 Lithium Ion Battery 14.4V 90WH
5-1/4" X 3-1/2" X 2-1/8", 1.7 lbs. ( 13.3 X 8.89 X 5.39 cm, 770g)

I obtained the above from Anton Bauer's website. I however, the Dionic 90 does not seem to weigh 1.7 pounds to me. I have not put it on an accurate scale.

I am sorry, but I do not have the exact weight of the mount at this time.

Tyge Floyd · March 19th, 2009, 09:28 PM

Thanks, Dan. I'm glad to see the specs on the nanoFlash are much smaller.

Dan Keaton · March 20th, 2009, 05:25 AM

Dear Tyge,

Yes, the nanoFlash is smaller.

Just remember that the Flash XDR was designed with the original Canon XL H1 in mind.

The original XL H1 does not have timecode or audio embedded in the HD-SDI signal.

So the Flash XDR has very high quality, 24-bit / 48K audio circuits with Mic/Line and +48V phantom power support. All of this takes room.

In order to provide pristine quality audio circuits, we needed to add four extra power supplies.

In addition, the Flash XDR, automatically embeds the timecode and audio into the HD-SDI outputs. This is done by taking the timecode from the BNC timecode input and the audio from the XLR inputs and electronically adding it to the loop-thru outputs.

When the Flash XDR, using our new mount, is added to the XL H1, the balance of the camera is much better. It appears to me that the center of balance is directly over the shoulder pad.

There is a place for the nanoFlash, and a place for the Flash XDR. For those with an original XL H1, we highly recommend the Flash XDR over the nanoFlash.

I see that you have a XL H1a and a HV30, according to your profile. The nanoFlash is far superior for use with the HV30.

Philipp Steiner · April 5th, 2009, 01:55 AM

Hi,

Just one Question..

When will this mount be available in Europe?

Dan Keaton · April 5th, 2009, 06:47 AM

Dear Phillip,

If you are speaking of the Flash XDR mount for the Canon XL H1, we could have one to your dealer within three weeks or less.

John Richard · April 5th, 2009, 08:53 AM

I rec'ed my shipment of this mounting system and put it together yesterday.

It is a sweet clean setup including the Anton Bauer mount plate, short 4-pin XLR power tap to the bottom of the XDR, and Dionic 90 battery.

With the 6X lense & Chrosiel Matte Box and 2 glass filters in, this new mount system brings the balance of the camera back to the shoulder pad aiding in handheld shots.

Machine work and finish(black matte powder coating) of the mounting is top-notch. A lot of thought and work went into this design.

I had a few questions and, as usual, Dan was very responsive.

If you have the original H1, besides balancing the overall rig, this system really cleans things up as all the cable runs (timecode, HD-SDI video, 1 or 2 audio XLR's, hirose remote trigger) are all shortened up and run to the back of the rig.

Very much recommend this solution.

Philipp Steiner · April 5th, 2009, 11:19 AM

Now thats pretty cool :)..

I am actually waiting for AVI-SYS (my local dealer) to give me a XDR Unit for testing...but they only have one and i am in a waiting line for this...

but its good to know the mount is available so promptly..

thanks for the quick reply...
and also the good review..

cheers and nice Sunday..

phil

Nic van Oudtshoorn · April 5th, 2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Keaton

Dear Phillip,

If you are speaking of the Flash XDR mount for the Canon XL H1, we could have one to your dealer within three weeks or less.

Hi Dan

Forgive me if I am wrong, but unless I have not read the posts properly, nowhere is there a price for the XL adapter nor a photo showing it mounted. Can you please advise details and also when I could obtain one? How is the HPX500 mount design going?

John Richard · April 6th, 2009, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nic van Oudtshoorn

Hi Dan

Forgive me if I am wrong, but unless I have not read the posts properly, nowhere is there a price for the XL adapter nor a photo showing it mounted. Can you please advise details and also when I could obtain one? How is the HPX500 mount design going?

Please forgive me if I misunderstood your statement, but the very first post in this thread shows several photos of the mount on the XLH1. As for info on the HPX500, I have no info.

Dan Keaton · April 6th, 2009, 09:49 AM

Dear Nic,

I hope to have some photos of the full size camera mount up today.

This is a plate that attaches to the Flash XDR. One one side are three Anton Bauer Gold Mount Studs which then allow the plate to be attached to any Anton Bauer Gold Mount.

The three studs can be attached in two positions.

The Flash XDR can also be attached in multiple positions.

Also, there is a provision for a Baby Pin, so this plate can be attached to grip gear, or used as a table top stand.

March 18th, 2009, 08:02 PM	#16
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Michael, We are working on that. We have been working with IDX to obtain the proper adapter. The Flash XDR has screw holes in the IDX pattern on the back just for that purpose. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

March 19th, 2009, 01:59 PM	#18
Tyge Floyd Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Worth, Texas Posts: 287	Thanks, John, for the link but I'm fully aware of the URL for their web site. I've spent quite a bit of time there over the last several months and still do not know what these units and the adapters/batteries weigh or how big the units are until I see them compared to a camera or another object. It's pretty important to me to know these things in order to make an informed buyer's decision. __________________ At full draw, Tyge Floyd

March 19th, 2009, 03:07 PM	#19
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Tyge, Here are the sizes: Flash XDR: 8” (L) x 6” (W) x 2.5”(H), (203 x 152 x 63 mm), 2.7 lbs (1.3 kg) nanoFlash 4.1” (L) x 3.7” (W) x 1.375” (H) (106x94x35mm), 1 lb. (0.4 Kg) Here is the info on the Dionic 90 Battery: Digital DIONIC 90 Lithium Ion Battery 14.4V 90WH 5-1/4" X 3-1/2" X 2-1/8", 1.7 lbs. ( 13.3 X 8.89 X 5.39 cm, 770g) I obtained the above from Anton Bauer's website. I however, the Dionic 90 does not seem to weigh 1.7 pounds to me. I have not put it on an accurate scale. I am sorry, but I do not have the exact weight of the mount at this time. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

March 19th, 2009, 09:28 PM	#20
Tyge Floyd Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Worth, Texas Posts: 287	Thanks, Dan. I'm glad to see the specs on the nanoFlash are much smaller. __________________ At full draw, Tyge Floyd

March 20th, 2009, 05:25 AM	#21
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Tyge, Yes, the nanoFlash is smaller. Just remember that the Flash XDR was designed with the original Canon XL H1 in mind. The original XL H1 does not have timecode or audio embedded in the HD-SDI signal. So the Flash XDR has very high quality, 24-bit / 48K audio circuits with Mic/Line and +48V phantom power support. All of this takes room. In order to provide pristine quality audio circuits, we needed to add four extra power supplies. In addition, the Flash XDR, automatically embeds the timecode and audio into the HD-SDI outputs. This is done by taking the timecode from the BNC timecode input and the audio from the XLR inputs and electronically adding it to the loop-thru outputs. When the Flash XDR, using our new mount, is added to the XL H1, the balance of the camera is much better. It appears to me that the center of balance is directly over the shoulder pad. There is a place for the nanoFlash, and a place for the Flash XDR. For those with an original XL H1, we highly recommend the Flash XDR over the nanoFlash. I see that you have a XL H1a and a HV30, according to your profile. The nanoFlash is far superior for use with the HV30. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

April 5th, 2009, 01:55 AM	#22
Philipp Steiner Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vienna Posts: 55	Hi, Just one Question.. When will this mount be available in Europe?

April 5th, 2009, 06:47 AM	#23
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Phillip, If you are speaking of the Flash XDR mount for the Canon XL H1, we could have one to your dealer within three weeks or less. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

April 5th, 2009, 08:53 AM	#24
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	I rec'ed my shipment of this mounting system and put it together yesterday. It is a sweet clean setup including the Anton Bauer mount plate, short 4-pin XLR power tap to the bottom of the XDR, and Dionic 90 battery. With the 6X lense & Chrosiel Matte Box and 2 glass filters in, this new mount system brings the balance of the camera back to the shoulder pad aiding in handheld shots. Machine work and finish(black matte powder coating) of the mounting is top-notch. A lot of thought and work went into this design. I had a few questions and, as usual, Dan was very responsive. If you have the original H1, besides balancing the overall rig, this system really cleans things up as all the cable runs (timecode, HD-SDI video, 1 or 2 audio XLR's, hirose remote trigger) are all shortened up and run to the back of the rig. Very much recommend this solution.

April 5th, 2009, 11:19 AM	#25
Philipp Steiner Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vienna Posts: 55	Now thats pretty cool :).. I am actually waiting for AVI-SYS (my local dealer) to give me a XDR Unit for testing...but they only have one and i am in a waiting line for this... but its good to know the mount is available so promptly.. thanks for the quick reply... and also the good review.. cheers and nice Sunday.. phil

April 6th, 2009, 09:49 AM	#28
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Nic, I hope to have some photos of the full size camera mount up today. This is a plate that attaches to the Flash XDR. One one side are three Anton Bauer Gold Mount Studs which then allow the plate to be attached to any Anton Bauer Gold Mount. The three studs can be attached in two positions. The Flash XDR can also be attached in multiple positions. Also, there is a provision for a Baby Pin, so this plate can be attached to grip gear, or used as a table top stand. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia