XDR: When will XDcam 720 30p be available? at DVinfo.net

Douglas Scott · February 6th, 2009, 02:03 PM

XDR: When will XDcam 720 30p be available for FCP and AVID?

Thanks for the updates that will come out later today.

Cheers,
Scott

Mike Schell · February 6th, 2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Scott

XDR: When will XDcam 720 30p be available for FCP and AVID?

Thanks for the updates that will come out later today.

Cheers,
Scott

Hi Scott-
Let me discuss with our engineers on Monday. It may not be a difficult upgrade, but I need to ask first.

Best-

Douglas Scott · February 6th, 2009, 11:38 PM

Thanks, I'm shooting in 720 30p again tomorrow and I can't use the XDR. I think all my shoots in 720 have been in 30p for the last 9 months.

Thanks,
Scott

Tim Polster · February 8th, 2009, 10:40 PM

Douglas,

Can you shoot in 1080p30 and downconvert?

Douglas Scott · February 9th, 2009, 01:16 AM

I would have to think about that, but my first response would be no to shooting 1080 30p. The client is expecting 720 and I don't have time for converting after the shoot. If I did, I wouldn't need the XDR. I could record to P2 cards, dump them into FCP and output them in whatever format. The XDR is suppose to be a time saver for me (my clients) and get me the XDcam format out of my DVCPro HD (HDX900) camera.

Scott

Mike Schell · February 9th, 2009, 10:03 AM

Hi Scott-
Which NLE program are you using to edit 720p30 material? Also, what bit-rate do you need? I know that FCP does not support a 720p30 4:2:2 profile, but we can drop back to 4:2:0 color space, if needed. Finally, are you looking for MXF or QT support (or both).

Thanks-

Douglas Scott · February 9th, 2009, 11:20 AM

I am using FCP 6., but my clients use FCP and AVID.

I think the 50 mbps will be used for most of the freelance work for TV magazine, news, documentary, corporate, Satellite uplinks, etc. For the productions I produce, I can use whatever I feel is appropriate for the project, my editing system and delivery format(s).

Scott

Mike Schell · February 9th, 2009, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Scott

I am using FCP 6., but my clients use FCP and AVID.

I think the 50 mbps will be used for most of the freelance work for TV magazine, news, documentary, corporate, Satellite uplinks, etc. For the productions I produce, I can use whatever I feel is appropriate for the project, my editing system and delivery format(s).

Scott

Hi Scott-
720p30/25/24 50Mbps 4:2:2 (XDCAM HD 422) is definitely not supported in FCP, we are now checking with Avid and Edius.

Best-

Douglas Scott · February 9th, 2009, 01:08 PM

It looks like those clients that shoot 720 30p will be out of luck as far as the XDR/XDcam is concerned. I think that XDcam is based more on the 1080 format and so offers more options in frame rates.

I'll have to see what the 1080 users are going to go with this year as far as frame rates.

If I read it right, the XDR records at 1080p 30, 25 & 24 and 1080i at 60 & 50 frame rates?

Scott

Mark Job · February 9th, 2009, 01:52 PM

...For what it's worth to you Scott, we shoot frequently in HD 720 p 30 with a Canon Power Shot TX 1 Digital Hybrid Camera, and both Avid Xpress & Media Composer will accept video files with this spec if you import them into a 720 p 29.97 project. It is quite bizarre to note Avid does not have any HD 720 p 30 Project choice in their format list. However, both HD 720 p 29.97 & 720 p 60 will handle HD 720 p 30 video.

EDIT: Avid Supports XDCAM at 720 p 23.976, 720 p 25, 720 p 29.97, 720 p 50, 720 p 59.94
DVCProHD: at the same rates as above.

Mike Schell · February 9th, 2009, 08:38 PM

Hi Mark-

Thanks for the feedback on the Avid support of 720p30/25/24 formats. I assume these are supported with the 4:2:0 35 Mbps XDCAM HD CODEC. Do you knwo if Avid supports these formats in the XDCAM HD 422 50Mbps CODEC also?

Thanks-

February 6th, 2009, 02:03 PM	#1
Douglas Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 56	XDR: When will XDcam 720 30p be available? XDR: When will XDcam 720 30p be available for FCP and AVID? Thanks for the updates that will come out later today. Cheers, Scott

February 9th, 2009, 10:03 AM	#6
Mike Schell Convergent Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 869	720p30/25/24 Support Question Hi Scott- Which NLE program are you using to edit 720p30 material? Also, what bit-rate do you need? I know that FCP does not support a 720p30 4:2:2 profile, but we can drop back to 4:2:0 color space, if needed. Finally, are you looking for MXF or QT support (or both). Thanks- __________________ Mike Schell Convergent Design

February 9th, 2009, 08:38 PM	#11
Mike Schell Convergent Design Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 869	Hi Mark- Thanks for the feedback on the Avid support of 720p30/25/24 formats. I assume these are supported with the 4:2:0 35 Mbps XDCAM HD CODEC. Do you knwo if Avid supports these formats in the XDCAM HD 422 50Mbps CODEC also? Thanks- __________________ Mike Schell Convergent Design

February 6th, 2009, 11:38 PM	#3
Douglas Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 56	Thanks, I'm shooting in 720 30p again tomorrow and I can't use the XDR. I think all my shoots in 720 have been in 30p for the last 9 months. Thanks, Scott

February 8th, 2009, 10:40 PM	#4
Tim Polster Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 2,231	Douglas, Can you shoot in 1080p30 and downconvert?

February 9th, 2009, 01:16 AM	#5
Douglas Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 56	I would have to think about that, but my first response would be no to shooting 1080 30p. The client is expecting 720 and I don't have time for converting after the shoot. If I did, I wouldn't need the XDR. I could record to P2 cards, dump them into FCP and output them in whatever format. The XDR is suppose to be a time saver for me (my clients) and get me the XDcam format out of my DVCPro HD (HDX900) camera. Scott

February 9th, 2009, 11:20 AM	#7
Douglas Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 56	I am using FCP 6., but my clients use FCP and AVID. I think the 50 mbps will be used for most of the freelance work for TV magazine, news, documentary, corporate, Satellite uplinks, etc. For the productions I produce, I can use whatever I feel is appropriate for the project, my editing system and delivery format(s). Scott

February 9th, 2009, 01:08 PM	#9
Douglas Scott Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 56	It looks like those clients that shoot 720 30p will be out of luck as far as the XDR/XDcam is concerned. I think that XDcam is based more on the 1080 format and so offers more options in frame rates. I'll have to see what the 1080 users are going to go with this year as far as frame rates. If I read it right, the XDR records at 1080p 30, 25 & 24 and 1080i at 60 & 50 frame rates? Scott

February 9th, 2009, 01:52 PM	#10
Mark Job Trustee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,138	...For what it's worth to you Scott, we shoot frequently in HD 720 p 30 with a Canon Power Shot TX 1 Digital Hybrid Camera, and both Avid Xpress & Media Composer will accept video files with this spec if you import them into a 720 p 29.97 project. It is quite bizarre to note Avid does not have any HD 720 p 30 Project choice in their format list. However, both HD 720 p 29.97 & 720 p 60 will handle HD 720 p 30 video. EDIT: Avid Supports XDCAM at 720 p 23.976, 720 p 25, 720 p 29.97, 720 p 50, 720 p 59.94 DVCProHD: at the same rates as above.