MXF sample files for testing at DVinfo.net

Tommy Schell · January 21st, 2009, 06:23 PM

Hello,

We've posted evaluation MXF files generated on the Flash XDR, found here:

http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...080i50.MXF.zip
http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...0i5994.MXF.zip
http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...080i50.MXF.zip
http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...0i5994.MXF.zip

Each file is around 30 Mbytes.

We have tested the files in Vegas, the video appears to be fine, the audio is fine in 1080i50 but skips in 1080i5994.
We've not tried the files in any other NLE.

If you are inclined to do so, please download these files and try them in a pc based editing system such as Avid, Adobe Premiere (with Main Concept MPEG2 plugin), Vegas or Edius. These NLE's require recent updates to support the 50 Mbit files. We would greatly appreciate any feedback on this. At this point they may or may not be accepted into all NLE's.

The initial evaluation software release for MXF support is very close.

Tommy Schell

Bill Ravens · January 21st, 2009, 06:48 PM

D/L'ed the 1080i5994 and 1080i50.....attempted to import into Avid. Fails to import with exception error message relating to audio problem.
File will load into Tmpgenc4, but, video is white. Also fails to load in Procoder3.
Opens in Edius 5 without any problems whatsoever. Plays back beautifully, Edius reports 50 Mbps rate.

Dan Keaton · January 21st, 2009, 07:41 PM

Dear Bill,

Thank you! We appreciate your efforts.

We are working with Avid and Sony and others.

Today we shipped a Flash XDR to Avid so they can create files and then text them.

We are working very closely with Sony. We are getting wonderful support from both companies.

We have an Adobe Premiere system that we are going to load on a computer, but we have been swamped working on the firmware.

We are also working with MainConcept and they have been very helpful also.

We may have been working with others also. Apple was a great help in getting our Quicktime to work.

Our engineers are still working to get the audio correct for all video formats.

Thanks again!

Bill Ravens · January 21st, 2009, 08:55 PM

You're welcome. I received my purchased Flash XDR, today. Quite excited to play with 100mbps footage, so I have a vested interest in doing whatever I can. Workmanship and quality is very satisfactory. As of right now, the only means of injesting footage to PC is via Cineform transcoding. Am looking forward to expanding when mxf is working.

Mike Schell · January 21st, 2009, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ravens

D/L'ed the 1080i5994 and 1080i50.....attempted to import into Avid. Fails to import with exception error message relating to audio problem.
File will load into Tmpgenc4, but, video is white. Also fails to load in Procoder3.
Opens in Edius 5 without any problems whatsoever. Plays back beautifully, Edius reports 50 Mbps rate.

Hi Bill-
Thanks! I am not surprised that the file worked in Edius as these guys are real CODEC wizards. We'll work with the Avid engineers to get the audio debugged. Tommy suspects we have some flag set incorrectly in the MXF header. Hopefully we can get this sorted out quickly.

I will also ask Tommy to post some 100 Mbps footage, but I bet this also plays fine in Edius.

Best-

Mark Job · January 22nd, 2009, 12:56 AM

I tried importing both 1080i 59.94 MXF files, Avid MC refused to import either file with the same error. Please see the attached error print screen of the malfunction.

Dan Keaton · January 22nd, 2009, 04:37 AM

Dear Mark,

Good Morning!

Thanks for testing.

Tommy Schell · January 22nd, 2009, 10:53 AM

We're having a bit of trouble with audio skipping in 1080i5994.
Here is a longer 50 Mbit sample (the audio skips in Sony Vegas) :
Could someone perhaps try this file in Edius, particularly noting whether the audio
drops out a half second here and there?

http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...0i5994.MXF.zip
(160 Mbytes)

Here are 100 Mbit samples: (45 Mbytes each)

http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...it_i50.MXF.zip
http://convergent-design.fileburst.c..._i5994.MXF.zip

Thanks a lot
Tommy Schell

Tommy Schell · January 22nd, 2009, 11:02 AM

We're having a bit of trouble with audio skipping in 1080i5994.
Here is a longer 50 Mbit sample (the audio skips in Sony Vegas) :
Could someone perhaps try this file in Edius, particularly noting whether the audio
drops out a half second here and there?

http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...0i5994.MXF.zip
(160 Mbytes)

Here are 100 Mbit samples: (45 Mbytes each)

http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...it_i50.MXF.zip
http://convergent-design.fileburst.c..._i5994.MXF.zip

Thanks a lot
Tommy Schell

Bill Ravens · January 22nd, 2009, 11:42 AM

I can confirm the audio dropout in Vegas.
I can also report that the long file plays back without audio dropout in Edius.
-Bill

Mark Job · January 22nd, 2009, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Schell

We're having a bit of trouble with audio skipping in 1080i5994.
Here is a longer 50 Mbit sample (the audio skips in Sony Vegas) :
Could someone perhaps try this file in Edius, particularly noting whether the audio
drops out a half second here and there?

http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...0i5994.MXF.zip
(160 Mbytes)

Here are 100 Mbit samples: (45 Mbytes each)

http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...it_i50.MXF.zip
http://convergent-design.fileburst.c..._i5994.MXF.zip

Thanks a lot
Tommy Schell

.....Nope. The 160 MB long file also won't import into Avid Media Composer Version 3.0.0. Please see the application's generated error dialogue below......

Dan Keaton · January 22nd, 2009, 12:18 PM

Dear Mark,

Thank you.

I have relayed the error message to our engineers. This is a good clue.

Tommy Schell · January 23rd, 2009, 10:01 AM

Thanks Bill, that is good to know about Edius.

PS Mark, I believe a recent update to Media Composer is needed to support the 50 Mbit.
We have 3.1.1, (which incidentally gives the same kind of error).

Tommy

Mark Job · January 23rd, 2009, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Schell

Thanks Bill, that is good to know about Edius.

PS Mark, I believe a recent update to Media Composer is needed to support the 50 Mbit.
We have 3.1.1, (which incidentally gives the same kind of error).

Tommy

...Nope. I'm not aware of any update specfically to support 50 Mbit. (??)

Mark Job · January 25th, 2009, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Keaton

Dear Mark,

Thank you.

I have relayed the error message to our engineers. This is a good clue.

....How about some more files to test in Avid MC please ? I'll test anything :-)

January 21st, 2009, 06:23 PM	#1
Tommy Schell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 65	MXF sample files for testing Hello, We've posted evaluation MXF files generated on the Flash XDR, found here: http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...080i50.MXF.zip http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...0i5994.MXF.zip http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...080i50.MXF.zip http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...0i5994.MXF.zip Each file is around 30 Mbytes. We have tested the files in Vegas, the video appears to be fine, the audio is fine in 1080i50 but skips in 1080i5994. We've not tried the files in any other NLE. If you are inclined to do so, please download these files and try them in a pc based editing system such as Avid, Adobe Premiere (with Main Concept MPEG2 plugin), Vegas or Edius. These NLE's require recent updates to support the 50 Mbit files. We would greatly appreciate any feedback on this. At this point they may or may not be accepted into all NLE's. The initial evaluation software release for MXF support is very close. Tommy Schell

January 21st, 2009, 06:48 PM	#2
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	D/L'ed the 1080i5994 and 1080i50.....attempted to import into Avid. Fails to import with exception error message relating to audio problem. File will load into Tmpgenc4, but, video is white. Also fails to load in Procoder3. Opens in Edius 5 without any problems whatsoever. Plays back beautifully, Edius reports 50 Mbps rate. Last edited by Bill Ravens; January 21st, 2009 at 07:22 PM.

January 21st, 2009, 07:41 PM	#3
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Bill, Thank you! We appreciate your efforts. We are working with Avid and Sony and others. Today we shipped a Flash XDR to Avid so they can create files and then text them. We are working very closely with Sony. We are getting wonderful support from both companies. We have an Adobe Premiere system that we are going to load on a computer, but we have been swamped working on the firmware. We are also working with MainConcept and they have been very helpful also. We may have been working with others also. Apple was a great help in getting our Quicktime to work. Our engineers are still working to get the audio correct for all video formats. Thanks again! __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

January 22nd, 2009, 12:56 AM	#6
Mark Job Trustee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,138	Import Test into Avid Media Composer 3.0.0 I tried importing both 1080i 59.94 MXF files, Avid MC refused to import either file with the same error. Please see the attached error print screen of the malfunction. Attached Thumbnails

January 22nd, 2009, 04:37 AM	#7
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Mark, Good Morning! Thanks for testing. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

January 21st, 2009, 08:55 PM	#4
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	You're welcome. I received my purchased Flash XDR, today. Quite excited to play with 100mbps footage, so I have a vested interest in doing whatever I can. Workmanship and quality is very satisfactory. As of right now, the only means of injesting footage to PC is via Cineform transcoding. Am looking forward to expanding when mxf is working.

January 22nd, 2009, 10:53 AM	#8
Tommy Schell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 65	more test files We're having a bit of trouble with audio skipping in 1080i5994. Here is a longer 50 Mbit sample (the audio skips in Sony Vegas) : Could someone perhaps try this file in Edius, particularly noting whether the audio drops out a half second here and there? http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...0i5994.MXF.zip (160 Mbytes) Here are 100 Mbit samples: (45 Mbytes each) http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...it_i50.MXF.zip http://convergent-design.fileburst.c..._i5994.MXF.zip Thanks a lot Tommy Schell

January 22nd, 2009, 11:02 AM	#9
Tommy Schell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 65	more test files We're having a bit of trouble with audio skipping in 1080i5994. Here is a longer 50 Mbit sample (the audio skips in Sony Vegas) : Could someone perhaps try this file in Edius, particularly noting whether the audio drops out a half second here and there? http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...0i5994.MXF.zip (160 Mbytes) Here are 100 Mbit samples: (45 Mbytes each) http://convergent-design.fileburst.c...it_i50.MXF.zip http://convergent-design.fileburst.c..._i5994.MXF.zip Thanks a lot Tommy Schell

January 22nd, 2009, 11:42 AM	#10
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	I can confirm the audio dropout in Vegas. I can also report that the long file plays back without audio dropout in Edius. -Bill

January 22nd, 2009, 12:18 PM	#12
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Mark, Thank you. I have relayed the error message to our engineers. This is a good clue. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

January 23rd, 2009, 10:01 AM	#13
Tommy Schell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 65	Thanks Bill, that is good to know about Edius. PS Mark, I believe a recent update to Media Composer is needed to support the 50 Mbit. We have 3.1.1, (which incidentally gives the same kind of error). Tommy