Anyone using the Flash XDR at 25p 100Mbs?

George Kroonder · November 3rd, 2008, 04:26 AM

Hi Ofer,

I think DJ would like to know if you succeeded. Setting the display out to off should work, but if it doesn't we'd like to know as well.

You may want to try and reset the camera to make sure there's not something wrong with the in camera prefs.

George/

Ofer Levy · November 3rd, 2008, 06:44 AM

The good news is that setting the "YPbPr/SDI Out Display" to "Off" in the Video SET Menu delivered the goods and no text was recorded.
I could only playback the recorded clip using the older 0.0.115 firmware version. When I tried to playback the clip with the new firmware 0.0.124 - I got "no signal" on my monitor for some reason.

Dan Keaton · November 3rd, 2008, 07:40 AM

Dear Ofer,

The 0.0.124 release allows recording of Quicktime files.

With this release, you can record Quicktime files in the Flash XDR, but you need to take the recorded files and play them back in a computer. This firmware, 0.0.124, was released to alllow testing of the Quicktime files and the associated workflow in your Non-Linear Editor.

In release 0.0.124, if you wish to record and playback files from within the Flash XDR, then you will need to select the "CDV" option instead of the "QT" option in the menu.

Release 0.0.115 worked fine for you, since for this release, "CDV" is the default, and the "CDV" option allows both record and playback from within the Flash XDR.

Release 0.0.130, or later, will be released this week. In this release you will be able to select "CDV" or "QT" and you should be able to record and playback either type of file from within the Flash XDR itself.

With each release, there is documentation that discusses all of the important information and "recommendations for use" for each release.

John Richard · November 3rd, 2008, 09:14 AM

I had the same problem as Ofer with the .124 QT firmware at first - suddenly could no longer play back the shots out of the XDR to a monitor.

It is really important to read the release notes as Dan said - CD is working hard and fast to make many added features each release.

I am glad CD decided to work this way - releasing the XDR and making it a work in progress - because the XDR is already very usable in it's infant state.

Ofer Levy · November 3rd, 2008, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Keaton

Dear Ofer,

The 0.0.124 release allows recording of Quicktime files.

With this release, you can record Quicktime files in the Flash XDR, but you need to take the recorded files and play them back in a computer. This firmware, 0.0.124, was released to alllow testing of the Quicktime files and the associated workflow in your Non-Linear Editor.

In release 0.0.124, if you wish to record and playback files from within the Flash XDR, then you will need to select the "CDV" option instead of the "QT" option in the menu.

Release 0.0.115 worked fine for you, since for this release, "CDV" is the default, and the "CDV" option allows both record and playback from within the Flash XDR.

Release 0.0.130, or later, will be released this week. In this release you will be able to select "CDV" or "QT" and you should be able to record and playback either type of file from within the Flash XDR itself.

With each release, there is documentation that discusses all of the important information and "recommendations for use" for each release.

Thanks Dan,

I have tried the CDV option and not the QT and it won't palyback with the new firmware. (0.0.124)
I actually get a "No Signal" on my monitor.

Dan Keaton · November 3rd, 2008, 04:06 PM

Dear Ofer,

Please try this (using your current firmware version, which I believe is 0.0.115, if you are using 0.0.124, then just ensure that you are using the CDV option):

1. Remove all CompactFlash cards from your Flash XDR, except for one that you can format.

2. Using a CompactFlash card on which you do not have any files that you wish to save, format the CompactFlash Card by pressing the appropriate two keys simultaneously.

3. Connect up the Flash XDR to your camera and also connect up the Flash XDR HD-SDI output to your HD-SDI monitor.

4. With everything powered on, you should see a live signal on your monitor.

5. Press record, then record for 20 seconds, then press stop and wait for the recording to finish.

6. At this time, you should have one and one only CDV file on your CompactFlash card.

7. Press play and you should see your recording on your monitor.

The purpose of the above is to:

1. Ensure that you are getting a good signal to your HD-SDI monitor, prior to your recording, and,

2. Ensure that you have one and only one type of file on your CompactFlash card.

If you have two types, one or more Quicktime and one or more CDV files, then the Quicktime file will not play back and you should get the "no-signal" error.

If you have switched back to version 0.0.124, then just ensure that you are using the CDV option before each recording.

All of these special conditions will go away when we release 0.0.130 or later, which we expect to release this week.

If you did format your CompactFlash card prior to recording, then there may be another problem. Please report back as soon as possible, and we will continue in our attempts to assist. I realize that you are about 12 hours ahead of us.

November 3rd, 2008, 07:40 AM	#18
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Ofer, The 0.0.124 release allows recording of Quicktime files. With this release, you can record Quicktime files in the Flash XDR, but you need to take the recorded files and play them back in a computer. This firmware, 0.0.124, was released to alllow testing of the Quicktime files and the associated workflow in your Non-Linear Editor. In release 0.0.124, if you wish to record and playback files from within the Flash XDR, then you will need to select the "CDV" option instead of the "QT" option in the menu. Release 0.0.115 worked fine for you, since for this release, "CDV" is the default, and the "CDV" option allows both record and playback from within the Flash XDR. Release 0.0.130, or later, will be released this week. In this release you will be able to select "CDV" or "QT" and you should be able to record and playback either type of file from within the Flash XDR itself. With each release, there is documentation that discusses all of the important information and "recommendations for use" for each release. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

November 3rd, 2008, 04:06 PM	#21
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Ofer, Please try this (using your current firmware version, which I believe is 0.0.115, if you are using 0.0.124, then just ensure that you are using the CDV option): 1. Remove all CompactFlash cards from your Flash XDR, except for one that you can format. 2. Using a CompactFlash card on which you do not have any files that you wish to save, format the CompactFlash Card by pressing the appropriate two keys simultaneously. 3. Connect up the Flash XDR to your camera and also connect up the Flash XDR HD-SDI output to your HD-SDI monitor. 4. With everything powered on, you should see a live signal on your monitor. 5. Press record, then record for 20 seconds, then press stop and wait for the recording to finish. 6. At this time, you should have one and one only CDV file on your CompactFlash card. 7. Press play and you should see your recording on your monitor. The purpose of the above is to: 1. Ensure that you are getting a good signal to your HD-SDI monitor, prior to your recording, and, 2. Ensure that you have one and only one type of file on your CompactFlash card. If you have two types, one or more Quicktime and one or more CDV files, then the Quicktime file will not play back and you should get the "no-signal" error. If you have switched back to version 0.0.124, then just ensure that you are using the CDV option before each recording. All of these special conditions will go away when we release 0.0.130 or later, which we expect to release this week. If you did format your CompactFlash card prior to recording, then there may be another problem. Please report back as soon as possible, and we will continue in our attempts to assist. I realize that you are about 12 hours ahead of us. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia Last edited by Dan Keaton; November 3rd, 2008 at 04:48 PM.

November 3rd, 2008, 04:26 AM	#16
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	Hi Ofer, I think DJ would like to know if you succeeded. Setting the display out to off should work, but if it doesn't we'd like to know as well. You may want to try and reset the camera to make sure there's not something wrong with the in camera prefs. George/

November 3rd, 2008, 06:44 AM	#17
Ofer Levy Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney-Australia Posts: 443	The good news is that setting the "YPbPr/SDI Out Display" to "Off" in the Video SET Menu delivered the goods and no text was recorded. I could only playback the recorded clip using the older 0.0.115 firmware version. When I tried to playback the clip with the new firmware 0.0.124 - I got "no signal" on my monitor for some reason.

November 3rd, 2008, 09:14 AM	#19
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	I had the same problem as Ofer with the .124 QT firmware at first - suddenly could no longer play back the shots out of the XDR to a monitor. It is really important to read the release notes as Dan said - CD is working hard and fast to make many added features each release. I am glad CD decided to work this way - releasing the XDR and making it a work in progress - because the XDR is already very usable in it's infant state.