Sony F900 mounting at DVinfo.net

Bruce Schultz · July 25th, 2008, 10:26 AM

I see in some of the literature that the Flash XDR unit will mount on most cameras. I'm wondering what this mount will look like for specific cameras like;

Sony F900R and Sony EX-1 ??

It would be very nice to see a 50pin interface like an Evertz or Miranda box uses for the F900 but barring that I'm very curious as to the interface between the camera and the XDR unit.

Bruce Schultz

PS: to Mike Schell - hey I was one of the original Plum Video Card beta testers. Good to see you guys up on an exciting new product.

Mike Schell · July 26th, 2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Schultz

I see in some of the literature that the Flash XDR unit will mount on most cameras. I'm wondering what this mount will look like for specific cameras like;

Sony F900R and Sony EX-1 ??

It would be very nice to see a 50pin interface like an Evertz or Miranda box uses for the F900 but barring that I'm very curious as to the interface between the camera and the XDR unit.

Bruce Schultz

PS: to Mike Schell - hey I was one of the original Plum Video Card beta testers. Good to see you guys up on an exciting new product.

Hi Bruce-
We are working on a Sony F23 mounting scheme now (using the Flash XDR). We should be able to use this work with the F900 also.

On the EX1, we would recommend using the nanoFlash recorder, since you won't need the analog audio input found on the larger XDR. We are working on a mount with the Coco battery adapter, but I don't have anything definitive just yet.

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Helmut Brueker · August 4th, 2008, 02:03 PM

Hi Mike,

Bruce question about a 50 pin F900/3 connection for the flash xdr is very important for me an many professional camera users because it makes it possible to attach the flash xdr directly to the f900 without a miranda box between them. A miranda 800 for example has this 50 pin connector with a sony battery Vmount on one side. So the miranda gets the full hd 4:2:2 videosignal and all other signals like timecode and sound. If you could make this adaption possible all professional camera users could then adapt the flash xdr directly with all connections in a few seconds. That would have the advantage that all HDCAM cameras like the F900 could use the flash xdr much more easier and without interconnect a miranda in between. If I cannot use this 50 pin adaptor I must connect the xdr on top of the miranda with video, timecode audio and power connections. This makes the system much more complex and heavily. To use the xdr on a system like the F900 is a great possibility because I get all the benefits from the xdr and have a backup on tape in 3:1:1 in the same time.

I would be very grateful for more infromation to this topic and send my best wishes to all of the crew for your great work :-)

Greetings from Germany

Helmut

E.J. Sadler · August 4th, 2008, 10:08 PM

Even if every F900 owner in the world was going to buy an XDR, I don't think Convergent could hit it's price point having to deal with a non HD-SDI signal from the camera. It just doesn't make sense to support anything that doesn't have HD-SDI out. I think you'll have to stick with the Miranda to get HD-SDI or rent an F900R.

Dan Keaton · August 5th, 2008, 05:45 AM

I have tried to do some quick research on the F900, but I could not find what I needed.

From this thread it appears that the F900 does not have an HD-SDI output.

It appears that the F900R does.

Can anyone confirm this?

Do either have component output?

If they have HD-SDI, do they have embedded audio and timecode?

E.J. Sadler · August 5th, 2008, 09:01 AM

The F900 does not have HS-SDI, it's analogue outputs needed an external converter like the Miranda.

The F900R does have HD-SDI that was designed to be recorded with an HDCAM-SR deck, so timecode is present and but I don't know about audio. It seems hard to belive they would not embed audio given how much grief they ate about the F900's outputs, but you never know.

Dan Keaton · August 5th, 2008, 09:03 AM

Dear E. J.,

Thank you for the information.

July 25th, 2008, 10:26 AM	#1
Bruce Schultz Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malibu, CA Posts: 480	Sony F900 mounting I see in some of the literature that the Flash XDR unit will mount on most cameras. I'm wondering what this mount will look like for specific cameras like; Sony F900R and Sony EX-1 ?? It would be very nice to see a 50pin interface like an Evertz or Miranda box uses for the F900 but barring that I'm very curious as to the interface between the camera and the XDR unit. Bruce Schultz PS: to Mike Schell - hey I was one of the original Plum Video Card beta testers. Good to see you guys up on an exciting new product.

August 4th, 2008, 02:03 PM	#3
Helmut Brueker Tourist Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Telescope Film, Duesseldorf, Germany Posts: 4	F900 mount Hi Mike, Bruce question about a 50 pin F900/3 connection for the flash xdr is very important for me an many professional camera users because it makes it possible to attach the flash xdr directly to the f900 without a miranda box between them. A miranda 800 for example has this 50 pin connector with a sony battery Vmount on one side. So the miranda gets the full hd 4:2:2 videosignal and all other signals like timecode and sound. If you could make this adaption possible all professional camera users could then adapt the flash xdr directly with all connections in a few seconds. That would have the advantage that all HDCAM cameras like the F900 could use the flash xdr much more easier and without interconnect a miranda in between. If I cannot use this 50 pin adaptor I must connect the xdr on top of the miranda with video, timecode audio and power connections. This makes the system much more complex and heavily. To use the xdr on a system like the F900 is a great possibility because I get all the benefits from the xdr and have a backup on tape in 3:1:1 in the same time. I would be very grateful for more infromation to this topic and send my best wishes to all of the crew for your great work :-) Greetings from Germany Helmut

August 5th, 2008, 05:45 AM	#5
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	I have tried to do some quick research on the F900, but I could not find what I needed. From this thread it appears that the F900 does not have an HD-SDI output. It appears that the F900R does. Can anyone confirm this? Do either have component output? If they have HD-SDI, do they have embedded audio and timecode? __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

August 5th, 2008, 09:03 AM	#7
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear E. J., Thank you for the information. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

August 4th, 2008, 10:08 PM	#4
E.J. Sadler Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ATL Posts: 65	Even if every F900 owner in the world was going to buy an XDR, I don't think Convergent could hit it's price point having to deal with a non HD-SDI signal from the camera. It just doesn't make sense to support anything that doesn't have HD-SDI out. I think you'll have to stick with the Miranda to get HD-SDI or rent an F900R.

August 5th, 2008, 09:01 AM	#6
E.J. Sadler Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: ATL Posts: 65	The F900 does not have HS-SDI, it's analogue outputs needed an external converter like the Miranda. The F900R does have HD-SDI that was designed to be recorded with an HDCAM-SR deck, so timecode is present and but I don't know about audio. It seems hard to belive they would not embed audio given how much grief they ate about the F900's outputs, but you never know.