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Mike, and anybody else -
-perhaps this has been discussed before, but which NLE is supposed to handle the files recorded with Flash XDR? For example, the 100Mbps, 4:2:2 format - will it be possible to edit with Vegas, or will some SW/HW solution like Edius SP/SP-SDI be required?
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April 7th, 2008, 02:20 PM
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We are expecting NLE support for the 50 Mbps rate to be announced at NAB. Extending this rate to 100 Mbps should not be a difficult update to the software CODEC. Look for more info next week.
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April 10th, 2008, 11:30 AM
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Flash XDR Update 10-Apr-08
We have some exciting news to report on Flash XDR: we now have video recording and playback from Compact Flash at 50Mbps 4:2:2 (Full-Raster) working on our engineering eval board! We are recording a 30 second clip and playing back on our HD-SDI monitor. The video quality looks superb.
We also just received the metal chassis and the rubber overmold. We'll post photos of the actual product later today. Please see Flash XDR at our booth (SL7828) next week at NAB.
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April 10th, 2008, 06:05 PM
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but seriously when do you expect to start fulfillment? (the act or state of fulfilling: to witness the fulfillment of a dream; to achieve fulfillment of one's hopes.) Can't wait! BTW - My 4 Lexor card readers arrived yesterday. Sent away for my 4 x $35 refund. $140 coming back. Stefan |
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April 13th, 2008, 07:30 AM
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Stefan
Did you send out 4 seperate rebate forms or did you send out 1 form for the four??? Just curious as mine showed up this friday also.... :-) |
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April 13th, 2008, 08:11 AM
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We hope to start delivery in May. Our engineers are working double time to get Flash XDR finished. We are making excellent progress, but this is a complicated product. Also, if anyone needs high-rez images, they are available on our website for download.
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April 13th, 2008, 09:20 AM
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They say only 3 per rebates per customer but I might get lucky. Haven't bought the Flash cards yet. Will wait until Mike delivers real soon now. http://stefansargent.com |
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April 13th, 2008, 09:24 AM
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See ya at NAB! http://stefansargent.com |
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April 13th, 2008, 10:50 AM
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NAB press releases and product photos posted at http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....&postcount=140
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April 17th, 2008, 02:13 AM
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Hey Mike
any news on the NLE support yet? Thats a biggie
cheers Adam |
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April 17th, 2008, 05:04 PM
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NLE support is still a little nebulous at this point.
Asked this question at NAB ... and did not quite get an answer out of Adobe. Mike said they have been working with all the majors on it for some time though. And seeing how thorough his team has been with the product, I doubt if they would leave out the last step. Also, since this is a Sony codec, I would imagine that Sony's Vegas may already support it. Hopefully Mike Schell will find time after NAB to provide more detail on the NLE support issue. P.S. XDR won a Viddy for Best of Show at NAB'08. |
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April 17th, 2008, 08:57 PM
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Congrats guys
on a well deserved award on a great product, This was actually the reason a year ago I spent the extra on a JVC 251 over the 200 almost a year ago before I knew specifically about your product, it is a must-do progression of the industry, and will once and for all herald a time when the days of bad colour keying capability, unnecesary mosquito noise and subpar audio, especially for the independant one man bands will be gone.
Now I just have to find a way to pay for one when they come out :- P |
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April 20th, 2008, 08:35 AM
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Apple announced support for the 50Mbps 4:2:2 Long-GOP CODEC at NAB. We will send test files sometime this month to the Apple CODEC development team. We don't expect any big challenges, but there may be a few necessary tweaks for 100% compatibility. We also hope for 100 Mbps compatibility in the near future as this is a simple increase in the bit-rate (the basic CODEC is unchanged). Avid is projecting 50Mbps 4:2:2 support in June. We also plan to send test files shortly. I will check with Vegas and Premiere this week. As a fall back, you can always playback the video via HD-SDI and capture into an NLE just like a tape deck. This is certainly not the preferred method, but it will work as an interim solution. |
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April 20th, 2008, 01:11 PM
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In theory Avid Liquid should have full support all set to go. I always work with everything up to 300 mbits m2v files in Liquid. The only issue there may be is how the MXf files are created. Liquid does already however every single flavor of mpeg2 you could ever have. I know this doesn't help those who do not use Liquid but it does show that it can be done and that it shouldn't be any problem to support the format. Like Mike pointed out once you support the high profile high level form of mpeg2 with the 4:2:2 support everything else is just bitrate level and usually a decoder doesn't really care what bitrate it is decoding. For those who work with Cineform or Prores there shouldn't be that much of a problem to convert the files to either of those formats to work with.
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April 20th, 2008, 01:44 PM
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This is all very nice, but:
- still no word on mounting option for Sony EX1 - still not even a shortest sample of 50 Mbps 4:2:2 which not only would help us assess quality (which I believe will be great), but also let us try out our current NLE's (using Vegas personally, I wouldn't like the idea of being forced to invest in Liquid, or a hardware card for HD-SDI capture, at all !!) Mike?
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