Neo HDV or HD for JVC110 at DVinfo.net

Bill Ravens · May 23rd, 2007, 10:55 AM

David...

I've been using Connect HD for all my conversion to intermediate before editting, with great success. I've updated to Neo HDV, but, I'm now wondering if anything is to be gained by going to NeoHD. I capture from a JVC HD110 (12 bit data) and import into Vegas7. I know Vegas processes 10 bit in its core, but, the I/O is 8 bit, so, is anything to be gained for me by going to Neo HD?

There's also limited times when I could capture component output from a BMD Intensity pro card. Would there be any benefit to NeoHD in these cases, as well, considering I edit all of it in Vegas7?

Thanx, in advance, for any insight you can provide.

David Newman · May 23rd, 2007, 11:56 AM

The JVC HD110 is only an 8-bit camera, 12-bit per pixel is if you average the luma and chroma for an 8-bit 4:2:0 system, pro 10-bit averages 20-bits per pixel. So that the terminology is not mixed up, the luma precision for this camera, and all HDV cameras, whether HDSDI equipmented or not, is 8-bit.

NEO HD gives you 10-bit 1920x1080, and you have an 8-bit 1280x720 source, so for most applications NEO HDV will be sufficient -- unless you are trying to master to 1920x1080. Vegas is also 8-bit too. NEO HD for 720p sources in Vegas my not get you anything, if you are capturin glive from Canon over HDSDI, then NEO HD is the best choice. However NEO 2K might offer you some advantages. Now you have 4:4:4 RGB encoding, if you have a lot of effects work this is the way to go.

Bill Ravens · May 23rd, 2007, 01:01 PM

Thanx...things certainly get ambiguous quickly. Sounds like I'll stick with Neo HDV, for now. I just read elsewhere that BMD Intensity is 8-bit, as well.

May 23rd, 2007, 10:55 AM	#1
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Neo HDV or HD for JVC110 David... I've been using Connect HD for all my conversion to intermediate before editting, with great success. I've updated to Neo HDV, but, I'm now wondering if anything is to be gained by going to NeoHD. I capture from a JVC HD110 (12 bit data) and import into Vegas7. I know Vegas processes 10 bit in its core, but, the I/O is 8 bit, so, is anything to be gained for me by going to Neo HD? There's also limited times when I could capture component output from a BMD Intensity pro card. Would there be any benefit to NeoHD in these cases, as well, considering I edit all of it in Vegas7? Thanx, in advance, for any insight you can provide.

May 23rd, 2007, 11:56 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	The JVC HD110 is only an 8-bit camera, 12-bit per pixel is if you average the luma and chroma for an 8-bit 4:2:0 system, pro 10-bit averages 20-bits per pixel. So that the terminology is not mixed up, the luma precision for this camera, and all HDV cameras, whether HDSDI equipmented or not, is 8-bit. NEO HD gives you 10-bit 1920x1080, and you have an 8-bit 1280x720 source, so for most applications NEO HDV will be sufficient -- unless you are trying to master to 1920x1080. Vegas is also 8-bit too. NEO HD for 720p sources in Vegas my not get you anything, if you are capturin glive from Canon over HDSDI, then NEO HD is the best choice. However NEO 2K might offer you some advantages. Now you have 4:4:4 RGB encoding, if you have a lot of effects work this is the way to go. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 23rd, 2007, 01:01 PM	#3
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Thanx...things certainly get ambiguous quickly. Sounds like I'll stick with Neo HDV, for now. I just read elsewhere that BMD Intensity is 8-bit, as well.