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Graham Hickling · May 11th, 2007, 01:56 PM

There were known problems getting Soreson Squeeze 4.3 to open Cineform avi files. But since then I've read several threads with posters saying the problem had been solved with an update to Squeeze.

Today I tried getting Squeeze 4.5.5.001 (PC version) to accept a Cineform avi encoded with Aspect 4.3.176 ... and still had no luck!

Can anyone confirm that this combination is working for them? Is anyone still having problems?

David Newman · May 11th, 2007, 02:49 PM

I spent many nights trying to determine what Sequeeze's problem is. It does seem to have a broken AVI importer, as other AVI types are not working well either with no scrubbing preview, although CineForm AVIs seem to have a worse time. Export to an MOV wrapped CineForm file works fine, so it is not CineForm compression, it is Sequeeze's handling of our AVIs. So either don't use a CineForm export format, or use Aspect HD v5 and export to a CineForm QuickTime which works fine in Sequeeze.

David Taylor · May 11th, 2007, 06:37 PM

Graham, you can also use the file conversion utility in AHD v5 (or NEO for that matter) which literally re-wraps CineForm AVI files to MOV files (or vice-versa) without touching the underlying compression. Because it's literally replacing the wrapper it's almost as fast as a file copy.

Graham Hickling · May 11th, 2007, 07:02 PM

Thanks guys - good to know its not just a quirk of my system.

Peter Ferling · May 11th, 2007, 09:39 PM

Works perfectly with mov wrapper. I convert a 444 P2k clip and rendered out an mpeg2 DVD quality without issue, and I'm using SS 4.3 -no need to upgrade to 4.5 :)

Graham Hickling · May 11th, 2007, 09:46 PM

Yeah, I have to say though - I don't plan to start rendering out to movs. Aspect 4 is fine for all my other purposes.

I'll use the huffyuv codec and/or stick with Procoder.

May 11th, 2007, 01:56 PM	#1
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Cineform and Squeeze There were known problems getting Soreson Squeeze 4.3 to open Cineform avi files. But since then I've read several threads with posters saying the problem had been solved with an update to Squeeze. Today I tried getting Squeeze 4.5.5.001 (PC version) to accept a Cineform avi encoded with Aspect 4.3.176 ... and still had no luck! Can anyone confirm that this combination is working for them? Is anyone still having problems? Last edited by Graham Hickling; May 11th, 2007 at 07:36 PM.

May 11th, 2007, 02:49 PM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I spent many nights trying to determine what Sequeeze's problem is. It does seem to have a broken AVI importer, as other AVI types are not working well either with no scrubbing preview, although CineForm AVIs seem to have a worse time. Export to an MOV wrapped CineForm file works fine, so it is not CineForm compression, it is Sequeeze's handling of our AVIs. So either don't use a CineForm export format, or use Aspect HD v5 and export to a CineForm QuickTime which works fine in Sequeeze. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 11th, 2007, 09:39 PM	#5
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Works perfectly with mov wrapper. I convert a 444 P2k clip and rendered out an mpeg2 DVD quality without issue, and I'm using SS 4.3 -no need to upgrade to 4.5 :) __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

May 11th, 2007, 06:37 PM	#3
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	Graham, you can also use the file conversion utility in AHD v5 (or NEO for that matter) which literally re-wraps CineForm AVI files to MOV files (or vice-versa) without touching the underlying compression. Because it's literally replacing the wrapper it's almost as fast as a file copy.

May 11th, 2007, 07:02 PM	#4
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Thanks guys - good to know its not just a quirk of my system.

May 11th, 2007, 09:46 PM	#6
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Yeah, I have to say though - I don't plan to start rendering out to movs. Aspect 4 is fine for all my other purposes. I'll use the huffyuv codec and/or stick with Procoder.