Cineform: Is it so necessary? at DVinfo.net

Alexey Mordovin · January 27th, 2007, 06:58 AM

In some forum I've read that using Premiere Pro without AspectHD is pointless. Maybe I didn't understand something in context but I've got a question - Is this software from Cineform such a necesary stuff? Should I replace native software (DVgate) in my Sony AR11SR by this software? And what disadvantages has PPro so that I have to use Cineform's soft?

Mark Leonard · January 27th, 2007, 09:56 AM

cineform makes it so much easier on your system to handle hd. I have a very nice system and could run fine without it but I couldnt live without using aspect to edit in pp2.

and the guys at cineform (the David's in particular) are always here to help answer our questions even on weekends :)

Steven Gotz · January 27th, 2007, 10:21 AM

I don't know about DVGate, but the advantages of Aspect HD are huge.

If you use After Effects, it makes it possible to edit HDV. Even Adobe admits that HDV and AE are not a good pair. But with Aspect HD, it works fine.

The fact that HDV can be edited on less powerful PCs is important, but you should see it fly on my up-to-date system. The acceleration provided is amazing.

Multiple generations hardly lose any quality with the wavelet technology they use. Compared to native HDV it is considerably better.

Try it for yourself. There is a 15 day fully functional trial. Edit without it. Then edit with it. You'll see.

Earl Thurston · January 27th, 2007, 06:55 PM

I have a PC that's slightly below Cineform's minimum specifications, yet Aspect HD enables me to edit HDV footage as easily as DV. Even better, actually -- the same transitions I have to render in DV can be previewed in real time in HDV thanks to Cineform.

Alexey Mordovin · January 28th, 2007, 02:30 AM

Ok, guys, thank you! I'll try it.

Giroud Francois · January 28th, 2007, 11:22 AM

the day cineform goes AVCHD and DVCPRO, there will be no more questions.
the great thing to work under one good quality format, whatever the source was, is a tremendous advantage.

David Newman · January 28th, 2007, 12:01 PM

Doing P2 based DVCPRO today, and for AVCHD we are just waiting for a stable decoder to license.

January 27th, 2007, 06:58 AM	#1
Alexey Mordovin New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Moscow, Russian Federation Posts: 8	Cineform: Is it so necessary? In some forum I've read that using Premiere Pro without AspectHD is pointless. Maybe I didn't understand something in context but I've got a question - Is this software from Cineform such a necesary stuff? Should I replace native software (DVgate) in my Sony AR11SR by this software? And what disadvantages has PPro so that I have to use Cineform's soft?

January 27th, 2007, 10:21 AM	#3
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Cineform is a really, really good idea I don't know about DVGate, but the advantages of Aspect HD are huge. If you use After Effects, it makes it possible to edit HDV. Even Adobe admits that HDV and AE are not a good pair. But with Aspect HD, it works fine. The fact that HDV can be edited on less powerful PCs is important, but you should see it fly on my up-to-date system. The acceleration provided is amazing. Multiple generations hardly lose any quality with the wavelet technology they use. Compared to native HDV it is considerably better. Try it for yourself. There is a 15 day fully functional trial. Edit without it. Then edit with it. You'll see. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

January 27th, 2007, 06:55 PM	#4
Earl Thurston Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Burnaby & Maple Ridge BC Posts: 289	I have a PC that's slightly below Cineform's minimum specifications, yet Aspect HD enables me to edit HDV footage as easily as DV. Even better, actually -- the same transitions I have to render in DV can be previewed in real time in HDV thanks to Cineform. __________________ Earl R. Thurston, Stargate Connections Inc. Made with GY-HD100: The Container Adventures: The Rescue

January 28th, 2007, 12:01 PM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Doing P2 based DVCPRO today, and for AVCHD we are just waiting for a stable decoder to license. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

January 27th, 2007, 09:56 AM	#2
Mark Leonard Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 166	cineform makes it so much easier on your system to handle hd. I have a very nice system and could run fine without it but I couldnt live without using aspect to edit in pp2. and the guys at cineform (the David's in particular) are always here to help answer our questions even on weekends :)

January 28th, 2007, 02:30 AM	#5
Alexey Mordovin New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Moscow, Russian Federation Posts: 8	Ok, guys, thank you! I'll try it.

January 28th, 2007, 11:22 AM	#6
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	the day cineform goes AVCHD and DVCPRO, there will be no more questions. the great thing to work under one good quality format, whatever the source was, is a tremendous advantage.