Cineform and RED

Obin Olson · October 17th, 2006, 06:04 PM

I am posting an HD feature that will be in a theater near you soon.

Joe Carney · October 18th, 2006, 11:54 AM

Alex and Olbin, thanks. Like Vegas, people using Premier don't get the press like when someone uses FCP.

David, thanks, I'm hoping to make things as portable as possible. I guess my negative experiences with Premier 4.x have influenced my judgement about anything from Adobe concerning video editing.

David Taylor · October 18th, 2006, 12:28 PM

Joe,

Many in the creative community hold on to the (rightful) bad memory of early versions of Premiere. When Adobe went "Pro" in 2004 things became very different, and the app was pretty much fully rewritten.

We have numerous customers who have moved back to Premiere from FCP because they wanted to use the CineForm workflow. In most all cases they were hesitant to make that move because of bad old memories (like yours). But in all cases they acknowledge that Premiere Pro does pretty much everything that FCP does, and in some cases more, like having better deep pixel support (besides the CineForm RT software). Plus it has a better integration story with AE and Photoshop.

You should have good success with your feature using Premiere Pro.

Obin Olson · October 18th, 2006, 01:01 PM

I remember the days of Premiere 6.5...argg....Pro is a very good solid app...and now the cineform stuff is starting to work well with it. makes for an ideal workflow.

Robert Sanders · October 18th, 2006, 01:20 PM

I simply refuse to migrate back to a Windows environment. I have way to much invested in software and plugins. I'm hoping for those Quicktime solutions soon.

Joe Carney · October 18th, 2006, 09:41 PM

Thanks everyone for the feedback about Adobe. I have AE 7 pro and Photoshop CS2, I just couldn't bring myself to install Premier Pro 2.
But...I'll give it a try.

Note..I dont want anyone to think I'm abandoning Vegas. With ConnectHD, Vegas 7 and my HD100 I have a most excellent set of tools for story telling.

My issues with migrating to Premier have to do with the type of work I'm hoping to do next year.

October 18th, 2006, 11:54 AM	#17
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Alex and Olbin, thanks. Like Vegas, people using Premier don't get the press like when someone uses FCP. David, thanks, I'm hoping to make things as portable as possible. I guess my negative experiences with Premier 4.x have influenced my judgement about anything from Adobe concerning video editing. __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

October 18th, 2006, 01:20 PM	#20
Robert Sanders Starway Pictures Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Studio City Posts: 581	I simply refuse to migrate back to a Windows environment. I have way to much invested in software and plugins. I'm hoping for those Quicktime solutions soon. __________________ http://www.starwaypictures.com http://starwaypictures.blogspot.com/

October 18th, 2006, 09:41 PM	#21
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Thanks everyone for the feedback about Adobe. I have AE 7 pro and Photoshop CS2, I just couldn't bring myself to install Premier Pro 2. But...I'll give it a try. Note..I dont want anyone to think I'm abandoning Vegas. With ConnectHD, Vegas 7 and my HD100 I have a most excellent set of tools for story telling. My issues with migrating to Premier have to do with the type of work I'm hoping to do next year. __________________ Boycott Guinness, bring back the pint!!!

October 17th, 2006, 06:04 PM	#16
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	I am posting an HD feature that will be in a theater near you soon.

October 18th, 2006, 12:28 PM	#18
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	Joe, Many in the creative community hold on to the (rightful) bad memory of early versions of Premiere. When Adobe went "Pro" in 2004 things became very different, and the app was pretty much fully rewritten. We have numerous customers who have moved back to Premiere from FCP because they wanted to use the CineForm workflow. In most all cases they were hesitant to make that move because of bad old memories (like yours). But in all cases they acknowledge that Premiere Pro does pretty much everything that FCP does, and in some cases more, like having better deep pixel support (besides the CineForm RT software). Plus it has a better integration story with AE and Photoshop. You should have good success with your feature using Premiere Pro.

October 18th, 2006, 01:01 PM	#19
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	I remember the days of Premiere 6.5...argg....Pro is a very good solid app...and now the cineform stuff is starting to work well with it. makes for an ideal workflow.