David, need help! shot 60p with a framerate of 48fps..how to get 48fps out ? at DVinfo.net

Obin Olson · June 8th, 2006, 04:41 PM

Hey David, we just got done shooting a batch of footage, I did not think that I would have a problem getting the 48fps out of the 60, but as it turns out when I Hdlink it gives me what looks like a 60fps avi file with dupe frames in it...what is the method of getting the 48fps out?

thanks a million for an answer as we are on a tight deadline and need to get the 48fps out of the file for some vfx plate work.

;)

David Newman · June 8th, 2006, 04:49 PM

48p out of 60p is an HD-SDI capture option within Premiere's capture interface was Prospect HD. So is this MXF file related? HDLink will handle the native P2 modes, with over/undercranking to 24p, but will not handle 48 embedded in 60p. Use yousendit.com, please send me a sample MXF.

Obin Olson · June 8th, 2006, 04:56 PM

THing is, I don't really want to deal with HDSDI if we don't have to, as I don't want the digital->analog->digital conversion...I will upload our ftp with an mxf of the stuff..sorry I did not know I should use 720pn for the 48fps stuff!

Obin Olson · June 8th, 2006, 04:59 PM

dv3productions.com/cineform/0016NC.mxf

will take a few min to upload

Obin Olson · June 8th, 2006, 06:07 PM

file done uploading

David Newman · June 8th, 2006, 06:09 PM

Download isn't working for me.

Obin Olson · June 8th, 2006, 06:29 PM

named it a .zip it works now. rename the file .mxf when you get it.

ALso I can't capture because our system does not have enough CPU power for 60p, so a working HDlink would be most helpfull! thanks!

Eric Gorski · June 8th, 2006, 06:59 PM

yeah, the last couple downloads you've posted haven't been working... excited to see what you've been up to though.

Eric Gorski · June 8th, 2006, 07:00 PM

oh yeah, changing it to dv3productions.com/cineform/0016NC.zip works

Obin Olson · June 9th, 2006, 07:59 AM

Any updates David?

Obin Olson · June 9th, 2006, 08:01 AM

So if I shoot in 720pn and record off framerates it will convert with HDlink with no issues?

David Newman · June 9th, 2006, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obin Olson

So if I shoot in 720pn and record off framerates it will convert with HDlink with no issues?

Yes that is correct. We are converting all the frames in the MXF file, and honoring the frame rate indicated in the MXF header. So your 48 in 60p is converted "correctly", I'm still going to look for a simple extraction.

Obin Olson · June 9th, 2006, 10:25 AM

Thank you so much! I await your "fix"....;)

Richard Leadbetter · June 9th, 2006, 10:41 AM

Haven't seen any P2 footage before so I hope you will forgive me for taking a look at your download. It's definitely a 59.94fps file but I'm struggling to find the duped frames. I'm moving through the resulting AVI file frame by frame and each frame looks unique...

Are the frames being blended rather than duped? If they were being duped and were at regular intervals, VirtualDub could probably take care of it. If they're blending (and it looks as though they maybe), that can't really be adjusted on the HDLink AVIs as is.

Obin Olson · June 9th, 2006, 03:24 PM

hmm, I see dupes all the time when played back at 24fps in FUsion or AfterEffects..

June 8th, 2006, 04:41 PM	#1
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	David, need help! shot 60p with a framerate of 48fps..how to get 48fps out ? Hey David, we just got done shooting a batch of footage, I did not think that I would have a problem getting the 48fps out of the 60, but as it turns out when I Hdlink it gives me what looks like a 60fps avi file with dupe frames in it...what is the method of getting the 48fps out? thanks a million for an answer as we are on a tight deadline and need to get the 48fps out of the file for some vfx plate work. ;)

June 8th, 2006, 04:49 PM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	48p out of 60p is an HD-SDI capture option within Premiere's capture interface was Prospect HD. So is this MXF file related? HDLink will handle the native P2 modes, with over/undercranking to 24p, but will not handle 48 embedded in 60p. Use yousendit.com, please send me a sample MXF. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 8th, 2006, 06:09 PM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Download isn't working for me. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 9th, 2006, 10:41 AM	#14
Richard Leadbetter Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 323	Haven't seen any P2 footage before so I hope you will forgive me for taking a look at your download. It's definitely a 59.94fps file but I'm struggling to find the duped frames. I'm moving through the resulting AVI file frame by frame and each frame looks unique... Are the frames being blended rather than duped? If they were being duped and were at regular intervals, VirtualDub could probably take care of it. If they're blending (and it looks as though they maybe), that can't really be adjusted on the HDLink AVIs as is. __________________ Company Website: Digital Foundry Ltd Video Games HD Blog: Digital Foundry@Eurogamer

June 8th, 2006, 04:56 PM	#3
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	THing is, I don't really want to deal with HDSDI if we don't have to, as I don't want the digital->analog->digital conversion...I will upload our ftp with an mxf of the stuff..sorry I did not know I should use 720pn for the 48fps stuff!

June 8th, 2006, 04:59 PM	#4
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	dv3productions.com/cineform/0016NC.mxf will take a few min to upload

June 8th, 2006, 06:07 PM	#5
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	file done uploading

June 8th, 2006, 06:29 PM	#7
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	named it a .zip it works now. rename the file .mxf when you get it. ALso I can't capture because our system does not have enough CPU power for 60p, so a working HDlink would be most helpfull! thanks!

June 8th, 2006, 06:59 PM	#8
Eric Gorski Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Western Oregon Posts: 138	yeah, the last couple downloads you've posted haven't been working... excited to see what you've been up to though.

June 8th, 2006, 07:00 PM	#9
Eric Gorski Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Western Oregon Posts: 138	oh yeah, changing it to dv3productions.com/cineform/0016NC.zip works

June 9th, 2006, 07:59 AM	#10
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	Any updates David?

June 9th, 2006, 08:01 AM	#11
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	So if I shoot in 720pn and record off framerates it will convert with HDlink with no issues?

June 9th, 2006, 10:25 AM	#13
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	Thank you so much! I await your "fix"....;)

June 9th, 2006, 03:24 PM	#15
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	hmm, I see dupes all the time when played back at 24fps in FUsion or AfterEffects..