Dual Core

Charlie Wu · December 27th, 2005, 09:41 PM

is Premiere actually designed with multiple Cpu or Dual core cpu in mind??? My question is simple, can the current version actually utilize the full power of a 64 bit dualcore cpu without a major update?

David Newman · December 27th, 2005, 11:10 PM

Premiere is multi-processor aware, but with Aspect HD it is much more so. Although 64-bit stuff has little value for video editing.

Graham Hickling · January 6th, 2006, 01:41 AM

Just harking back to the early part of this thread, Newegg lists both the ASUS A8N5X and A8N-E motherboards (NForce4 and NForce4Ultra, respectively) as having both Parallel-ATA and Serial-ATA RAID capability.

I took this to mean they will indeed support IDE drives in a RAID configuration. Can anyone confirm or deny whether this is so? (I have been planning on getting a A8N5X to make use of some spare IDE drives that I have.)

Ken Hodson · January 8th, 2006, 10:53 PM

Both can be used in RAID. You can also do IDE/SATA combined RAID.

Graham Hickling · January 9th, 2006, 08:15 AM

Thanks, Ken!

Glenn Thomas · January 9th, 2006, 08:35 PM

I've been browsing this thread for a while now. Currently looking at either buying or building a new machine for HD editing, using Cineform of course. For the least amount of money if possible.

Now I've noticed the Athlon X2 4400+ processors seem to be quite popular. Judging by the CPU shootout at www.tomshardware.com I can see why. They appear to offer better overall performance than the Dual Core Pentium range in the same price range. What I'm not sure about is how these processors differ from the Opteron range? Since I'll be using the computer for 3d work aswell, I've been comparing various AMD based workstations from different companies. Some have X2 cpu's, others have dual Opteron 242, 244, 250's etc, whilst some just have a Dual Core Opteron.

As I've not been following the latest updates in computer technology, all of this seems a bit confusing. How would a single X2 4400+ PC compare with with a dual Opteron 250 cpu based machine? How about a Dual Core X2 4800+ vs an Opteron Dual Core 265 or 270? They're all a similar price. Which would be the best option for HD editing + 3d animation?

Graphics cards are something else I've not kept up to date with. Ideally I prefer using just a single monitor to work on, rather than two with a line down the middle. Dell have just released a 30" monitor (same size as our tv) which is much the same as Apple's, but a lot cheaper. It looks impressive, but I'd probably rather buy their 24" model for half the price. Anyway, I think I read on the Cineform site where David mentioned that the Matrox Parhelia is a good choice for a video card as it offers component out aswell. He also mentioned the Quadra FX 540, but said there was a delay. Out of the two, I know the Quadra FX would be better for working with 3d aswell. But I believe both monitors support dual monitors? Are there other options that will support just a single monitor + component out without the delay for monitoring the output on a TV?

Any help here would be much appreciated.

Glenn

Graham Hickling · January 10th, 2006, 03:40 AM

The reason Dave mentions the Parhelia was that it's fairly unique in supporting TWO monitors PLUS component out to a third (i.e. 3 monitors total).

However, if you only want one monitor, plus component out, then there will be more options (Newegg.com has a video card selection tool that will list them) ..... although I can't tell you anything about about their delays, sorry.

Mick Guzauski · January 10th, 2006, 09:23 AM

Hi,

Here's a couple of links that describes in detail the differences between the Athlon and the Opteron processors.

http://www.devx.com/amd/Article/27340

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/136

Mick

Glenn Thomas · January 11th, 2006, 05:18 PM

Cheers for the replies.

Mick, good articles. They do explain things a bit more clearly. Thanks for the links.

Jeff Baker · January 12th, 2006, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Harper

Any new updates about dual core, Premier Pro/Aspect performance?
Also, are any of the new dual core units hyperthreaded?
How about the Intel D 840 or 840 EE?
Intel D vs. AMD X2's??
Thanks,
Gary

So I can confirm that a 52 minute capture ended showing 73% had transcoded during the capture. It took another 15 minutes to finish the transcoding process.
This is with a dual core Opteron 165 overclocked to 2ghz with 1GB ram and video being captured to a striped raid drive.
Is anyone doing any better with Opteron 170 or 4400?

December 27th, 2005, 09:41 PM	#31
Charlie Wu Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Long Beach, CA USA Posts: 64	question... is Premiere actually designed with multiple Cpu or Dual core cpu in mind??? My question is simple, can the current version actually utilize the full power of a 64 bit dualcore cpu without a major update? __________________ Charlie Wu

December 27th, 2005, 11:10 PM	#32
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Premiere is multi-processor aware, but with Aspect HD it is much more so. Although 64-bit stuff has little value for video editing. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

January 8th, 2006, 10:53 PM	#34
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	Both can be used in RAID. You can also do IDE/SATA combined RAID. __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

January 6th, 2006, 01:41 AM	#33
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Just harking back to the early part of this thread, Newegg lists both the ASUS A8N5X and A8N-E motherboards (NForce4 and NForce4Ultra, respectively) as having both Parallel-ATA and Serial-ATA RAID capability. I took this to mean they will indeed support IDE drives in a RAID configuration. Can anyone confirm or deny whether this is so? (I have been planning on getting a A8N5X to make use of some spare IDE drives that I have.)

January 9th, 2006, 08:15 AM	#35
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Thanks, Ken!

January 9th, 2006, 08:35 PM	#36
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	I've been browsing this thread for a while now. Currently looking at either buying or building a new machine for HD editing, using Cineform of course. For the least amount of money if possible. Now I've noticed the Athlon X2 4400+ processors seem to be quite popular. Judging by the CPU shootout at www.tomshardware.com I can see why. They appear to offer better overall performance than the Dual Core Pentium range in the same price range. What I'm not sure about is how these processors differ from the Opteron range? Since I'll be using the computer for 3d work aswell, I've been comparing various AMD based workstations from different companies. Some have X2 cpu's, others have dual Opteron 242, 244, 250's etc, whilst some just have a Dual Core Opteron. As I've not been following the latest updates in computer technology, all of this seems a bit confusing. How would a single X2 4400+ PC compare with with a dual Opteron 250 cpu based machine? How about a Dual Core X2 4800+ vs an Opteron Dual Core 265 or 270? They're all a similar price. Which would be the best option for HD editing + 3d animation? Graphics cards are something else I've not kept up to date with. Ideally I prefer using just a single monitor to work on, rather than two with a line down the middle. Dell have just released a 30" monitor (same size as our tv) which is much the same as Apple's, but a lot cheaper. It looks impressive, but I'd probably rather buy their 24" model for half the price. Anyway, I think I read on the Cineform site where David mentioned that the Matrox Parhelia is a good choice for a video card as it offers component out aswell. He also mentioned the Quadra FX 540, but said there was a delay. Out of the two, I know the Quadra FX would be better for working with 3d aswell. But I believe both monitors support dual monitors? Are there other options that will support just a single monitor + component out without the delay for monitoring the output on a TV? Any help here would be much appreciated. Glenn

January 10th, 2006, 03:40 AM	#37
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	The reason Dave mentions the Parhelia was that it's fairly unique in supporting TWO monitors PLUS component out to a third (i.e. 3 monitors total). However, if you only want one monitor, plus component out, then there will be more options (Newegg.com has a video card selection tool that will list them) ..... although I can't tell you anything about about their delays, sorry.

January 10th, 2006, 09:23 AM	#38
Mick Guzauski New Boot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mount Kisco, New York Posts: 19	Hi, Here's a couple of links that describes in detail the differences between the Athlon and the Opteron processors. http://www.devx.com/amd/Article/27340 http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/136 Mick

January 11th, 2006, 05:18 PM	#39
Glenn Thomas Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 320	Cheers for the replies. Mick, good articles. They do explain things a bit more clearly. Thanks for the links.