For those who still want to use FIRSTLIGHT

Henry Olonga · April 12th, 2019, 10:30 PM

Hi guys,
I was eternally frustrated by the demise of Cineform mainly because of the inability to license the software. I had bought so many licenses over the years worth thousands of dollars. Turns out that Gopro Studio gives me issues that Firstlight didn't. Clips showing up as black frames plus a few more issues in Studio. I LOVE Firstlight - it just works and am too old to learn Resolve.

So I decided to go through my remaining licensed workstations to find a Firstlight version that was not covered by copy protection in that it would at least start up - later versions don't even open. Turns out I found one - from earlier in the product life cycle. Not sure about whether it is the best version but it does work okay with the odd issue. But the files grade as expected. You will need to have Cineform of some flavour installed. Perhaps even the latest Gopro Studio that had the tools.

GoProStudioPC-2.5.7.549 - I think? Google it.

Anyway - seems to work even on a USB stick so is transportable. I just copied the WHOLE folder and zipped it.

Look in the 'tools' folder - find Firstlight and enjoy. The look installer is also in there to install 3D Luts in .look format.

EDIT: Apologies but I am still experimenting whether this is a workable solution as I have hit a snag. I find that after working for a bit the screen goes grey so maybe it is back to the drawing board? Maybe the copy protection does kick in. Anyway - small inconvenience to me. Will keep experimenting to see if I can track down any earlier versions. Would appreciate to know if this happens to everyone or just my workstation as Cineform does some funky things here in Gopro studio as well.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1J9...BVclaF-OtmEP9k

YMMV

Henry

Christopher Young · April 13th, 2019, 09:24 PM

Just tried it out Henry as I'm running with GoPro Studio 2.5.7.549. Found this to be the best version of GoPro Studio. Only tried a few times on different files for around 20 minutes and so far no grey screen. On an OC'd 8700k with a 1080Ti card running HD files the CPU is running around 7-9% and the GPU 3-5%. Oh so little effort! I love Cineform. Forgot just what a great little bit of software Firstlight was. And all the way back from 2010! Thanks for the opportunity.

Chris Young
Sydney

Henry Olonga · April 14th, 2019, 06:50 AM

Thanks for the feedback Christopher,
I actually simplified everything and just copied across the three Firstlight files across to C:\Program Files (x86)\GoPro\Tools ( GoProStudioPC-2.5.7.549 )

FirstLight.exe
FirstLightHIDPluginBase.dll
FirstLightTangentWaveCP300Plugin.dll

In addition - FLPlayer.exe

And it all seems to work fine here. Will see how things work out over time. Don't forget to set the decoder quality settings accordingly for playback otherwise in the case of RAW files they may get played back at less than optimal quality and may have you scratching your head at how soft it looks. (demosaic type ) perhaps one of the better settings - like Adv detail3 in the taskbar ( For program playback like MPC-HC ) and to Full resolution in Firstlight. View - Full resolution. As long as you have a fast computer of course.

Best wishes
Henry

Henry Olonga · April 14th, 2019, 07:15 AM

Here is a screenshot - BMPCC - RAW. I love how quick it is to get results across an edit. You can copy and paste from clip to clip and tweak as you go. Even paste on a whole bunch of clips. Magic piece of kit really. I really have no clue how this ended up as abandonware by Gopro ( eventually open source ). So useful. To me the white balance feature is the Key. Blackmagic pocket footage ( original ) always needed a good white balance to get the subtle hues out of it IMHO.

In addition - I also have another abandoned piece of kit to turn CDNG into Cineform RAW if anyone wants to pm me.

Brian Drysdale · June 15th, 2019, 01:41 AM

Just a heads up, Lightworks now uses Cineform as one of its intermediate codecs,

Christopher Young · June 15th, 2019, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Olonga

Here is a screenshot - BMPCC - RAW. I love how quick it is to get results across an edit.

Sad to say Henry the copy of FirstLight you made available now just opens with the dialogue box saying 'Checking License' and then exits :( Indeed a pity as it was a great tool.

Chris Young

Bob Hart · October 16th, 2019, 12:57 PM

I have received a response on the Blackmagic Resolve forum to a query I posted as to whether they would add support for the burned in .look files from SI2K cineform camera origination.

Resolve will play SI2K files but the burned in looks are not added. I was asked if I had the colour-science info which I do not.

April 12th, 2019, 10:30 PM	#1
Henry Olonga Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 201	For those who still want to use FIRSTLIGHT - PC Hi guys, I was eternally frustrated by the demise of Cineform mainly because of the inability to license the software. I had bought so many licenses over the years worth thousands of dollars. Turns out that Gopro Studio gives me issues that Firstlight didn't. Clips showing up as black frames plus a few more issues in Studio. I LOVE Firstlight - it just works and am too old to learn Resolve. So I decided to go through my remaining licensed workstations to find a Firstlight version that was not covered by copy protection in that it would at least start up - later versions don't even open. Turns out I found one - from earlier in the product life cycle. Not sure about whether it is the best version but it does work okay with the odd issue. But the files grade as expected. You will need to have Cineform of some flavour installed. Perhaps even the latest Gopro Studio that had the tools. GoProStudioPC-2.5.7.549 - I think? Google it. Anyway - seems to work even on a USB stick so is transportable. I just copied the WHOLE folder and zipped it. Look in the 'tools' folder - find Firstlight and enjoy. The look installer is also in there to install 3D Luts in .look format. EDIT: Apologies but I am still experimenting whether this is a workable solution as I have hit a snag. I find that after working for a bit the screen goes grey so maybe it is back to the drawing board? Maybe the copy protection does kick in. Anyway - small inconvenience to me. Will keep experimenting to see if I can track down any earlier versions. Would appreciate to know if this happens to everyone or just my workstation as Cineform does some funky things here in Gopro studio as well. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1J9...BVclaF-OtmEP9k YMMV Henry __________________ My vimeo page: http://vimeo.com/henryolonga/videos My website: www.henryolonga.net Last edited by Henry Olonga; April 13th, 2019 at 08:17 AM.

April 13th, 2019, 09:24 PM	#2
Christopher Young Trustee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,566	Re: For those who still want to use FIRSTLIGHT - PC Just tried it out Henry as I'm running with GoPro Studio 2.5.7.549. Found this to be the best version of GoPro Studio. Only tried a few times on different files for around 20 minutes and so far no grey screen. On an OC'd 8700k with a 1080Ti card running HD files the CPU is running around 7-9% and the GPU 3-5%. Oh so little effort! I love Cineform. Forgot just what a great little bit of software Firstlight was. And all the way back from 2010! Thanks for the opportunity. Chris Young Sydney

April 14th, 2019, 06:50 AM	#3
Henry Olonga Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 201	Re: For those who still want to use FIRSTLIGHT - PC Thanks for the feedback Christopher, I actually simplified everything and just copied across the three Firstlight files across to C:\Program Files (x86)\GoPro\Tools ( GoProStudioPC-2.5.7.549 ) FirstLight.exe FirstLightHIDPluginBase.dll FirstLightTangentWaveCP300Plugin.dll In addition - FLPlayer.exe And it all seems to work fine here. Will see how things work out over time. Don't forget to set the decoder quality settings accordingly for playback otherwise in the case of RAW files they may get played back at less than optimal quality and may have you scratching your head at how soft it looks. (demosaic type ) perhaps one of the better settings - like Adv detail3 in the taskbar ( For program playback like MPC-HC ) and to Full resolution in Firstlight. View - Full resolution. As long as you have a fast computer of course. Best wishes Henry __________________ My vimeo page: http://vimeo.com/henryolonga/videos My website: www.henryolonga.net

April 14th, 2019, 07:15 AM	#4
Henry Olonga Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 201	Re: For those who still want to use FIRSTLIGHT - PC Here is a screenshot - BMPCC - RAW. I love how quick it is to get results across an edit. You can copy and paste from clip to clip and tweak as you go. Even paste on a whole bunch of clips. Magic piece of kit really. I really have no clue how this ended up as abandonware by Gopro ( eventually open source ). So useful. To me the white balance feature is the Key. Blackmagic pocket footage ( original ) always needed a good white balance to get the subtle hues out of it IMHO. In addition - I also have another abandoned piece of kit to turn CDNG into Cineform RAW if anyone wants to pm me. Attached Thumbnails __________________ My vimeo page: http://vimeo.com/henryolonga/videos My website: www.henryolonga.net

June 15th, 2019, 01:41 AM	#5
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: For those who still want to use FIRSTLIGHT - PC Just a heads up, Lightworks now uses Cineform as one of its intermediate codecs,

October 16th, 2019, 12:57 PM	#7
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Re: For those who still want to use FIRSTLIGHT - PC I have received a response on the Blackmagic Resolve forum to a query I posted as to whether they would add support for the burned in .look files from SI2K cineform camera origination. Resolve will play SI2K files but the burned in looks are not added. I was asked if I had the colour-science info which I do not.