New GoPro CineForm product line is out today.

David Newman · January 18th, 2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Litten

Is there a trial version Dave?

We have 15-day full trials like always.

Get all our trails here: CineForm Product Downloads

David Newman · January 18th, 2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus Klatt

/* edit: Sorry, I mixed Neo and NeoScene.*/

NeoScene is still available... Will NeoScene with Cineform codec be continued?

NeoScene will be continued, although it is off the front page of CineForm.com and will be deemphasized. It will back in the product matrix next week, and you can't still by it today.

You can directly upgrade NeoScene to CineForm Studio Premium for $170 -- it is a deal.

Roy Feldman · January 18th, 2012, 04:15 PM

Love it, I'm sure instructions will follow but 'till then any keyboard shortcuts other than ctrl +C,+V,+shift+V?

James Park · January 18th, 2012, 04:27 PM

One more thing... If I upgrade, will I be issued new serial? And will that serial be retroactive to previous versions of Neo? Reason I ask is if I need to go back and open projects in Premiere I created using Neo (without desktop mode), can I do it? Another words for whatever reason, will new serial work for old Neo?

David Newman · January 18th, 2012, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Feldman

Love it, I'm sure instructions will follow but 'till then any keyboard shortcuts other than ctrl +C,+V,+shift+V?

The undated manual for Premium and Professional is being finalized, but we could wait any longer.

Currently other than spacebar for play, no other shortcuts, yet more are coming.

David Newman · January 18th, 2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by James Park

One more thing... If I upgrade, will I be issued new serial? And will that serial be retroactive to previous versions of Neo? Reason I ask is if I need to go back and open projects in Premiere I created using Neo (without desktop mode), can I do it? Another words for whatever reason, will new serial work for old Neo?

New serial are for new products only. Premium contains the same Premiere CS5.x support as Neo. Try it, no risk.

Nicholas de Kock · January 18th, 2012, 05:37 PM

David is there any "real" benefit to upgrading to GoPro CineForm Studio Premium from Neo at this point? Is it more than just a logo change? Was the black-out issue in Sony Vegas resolved?

David Newman · January 18th, 2012, 06:15 PM

Yes there is real benefit.

Visual conversions, instead of running blind in HDLink and Remaster.
Trimming (set in and out points) before conversion.
Audio playback while editing Active Metadata.
Much easier access and controls over Vectorscopes, Waveforms and histograms.
Integrated MP4 for web exports.
Better overall stability.

Yes, Vegas issues are solved.

Ben Denham · January 18th, 2012, 08:21 PM

I recently purchased Neo, do I need to do anything to get the free upgrade or is it just a case of uninstalling and installing GoPro Cineform Studio Premium?

Sejin Park · January 18th, 2012, 08:29 PM

Do you have any price or update policy for prior users?

Since I purchased neo 3D Last april, a month before the new price policy in effect.

I was expecting to get extra licenses and complete GoPro 3D camera rig...

David Newman · January 18th, 2012, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Denham

I recently purchased Neo, do I need to do anything to get the free upgrade or is it just a case of uninstalling and installing GoPro Cineform Studio Premium?

Contact support@cineform.com and they will issue you your new key for Premium.

David Newman · January 18th, 2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sejin Park

Do you have any price or update policy for prior users?

Since I purchased neo 3D Last april, a month before the new price policy in effect.

I was expecting to get extra licenses and complete GoPro 3D camera rig...

$49 a seat is the upgrade fee. If you didn't collect your bonus licenses back then, you can still do by contacting support@cineform.com, support will work out who you need to contact regarding cameras (we don't have any at the CineForm office.)

Simon Zimmer · January 18th, 2012, 09:47 PM

Congrats CineForm!

Very cool!

Simon

James Park · January 19th, 2012, 01:39 AM

OK.. installed it. I'm sold. Everything looks great. I like the new cleaner consolidated more responsive interface in Cineform Studio. This is much better than the separate FirstLight and HDLink interface. I still need HDLink though because there is no capture utility in Studio. I remember reading an older post that you guys wanted to phase it out and have either Blackmagic or Aja support it natively. I haven't heard or seen anything on their end so far, so I hope you guys keep HDLink around (regardless how ugly it looks) until they get a solution... If you guys decide to integrate capture feature here or within NLE support or just keep as is and change the look then that be great too.

As far as reverting back to old projects (from Neo 5.5.2), they open in Premiere only under "Desktop Mode". I can playback and scrub the timeline and everything seems normal. CF dissolves, transitions all seem to work fine as well. But am I missing something? Is there anything different underneath the hood without the CF preset? (i.e. CPU optimization, utilization, etc...)

I notice I got the yellow render lines again which I havent seen in a while but I know that's just cosmetic and not an issue. Overall, this is nice improvement. To keep my copy current at $49 and get the good ol support, that's a no brainer...

Gerald Webb · January 19th, 2012, 03:19 AM

Just thinking, regarding capture of HDV,
Is there any difference in capturing in Vegas, then converting to Cineform from the Vegas timeline.
as opposed to,
Capturing and converting with HD Link since HD link captures an M2T file first then converts it to Cineform?
Is there a quality difference?
Or is it just a time saver since the capture and convert is automated?

January 18th, 2012, 04:15 PM	#18
Roy Feldman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Grosse pointe, michigan Posts: 189	Re: New GoPro CineForm product line is out today. Love it, I'm sure instructions will follow but 'till then any keyboard shortcuts other than ctrl +C,+V,+shift+V?

January 18th, 2012, 04:27 PM	#19
James Park Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon Posts: 58	Re: New GoPro CineForm product line is out today. One more thing... If I upgrade, will I be issued new serial? And will that serial be retroactive to previous versions of Neo? Reason I ask is if I need to go back and open projects in Premiere I created using Neo (without desktop mode), can I do it? Another words for whatever reason, will new serial work for old Neo?

January 18th, 2012, 05:37 PM	#22
Nicholas de Kock Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: KLD, South Africa Posts: 983	Re: New GoPro CineForm product line is out today. David is there any "real" benefit to upgrading to GoPro CineForm Studio Premium from Neo at this point? Is it more than just a logo change? Was the black-out issue in Sony Vegas resolved?

January 18th, 2012, 06:15 PM	#23
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Re: New GoPro CineForm product line is out today. Yes there is real benefit. Visual conversions, instead of running blind in HDLink and Remaster. Trimming (set in and out points) before conversion. Audio playback while editing Active Metadata. Much easier access and controls over Vectorscopes, Waveforms and histograms. Integrated MP4 for web exports. Better overall stability. Yes, Vegas issues are solved. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

January 18th, 2012, 08:21 PM	#24
Ben Denham Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NSW Australia Posts: 149	Re: New GoPro CineForm product line is out today. I recently purchased Neo, do I need to do anything to get the free upgrade or is it just a case of uninstalling and installing GoPro Cineform Studio Premium?

January 18th, 2012, 08:29 PM	#25
Sejin Park New Boot Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seoul Posts: 21	Re: New GoPro CineForm product line is out today. Do you have any price or update policy for prior users? Since I purchased neo 3D Last april, a month before the new price policy in effect. I was expecting to get extra licenses and complete GoPro 3D camera rig...

January 18th, 2012, 09:47 PM	#28
Simon Zimmer Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Easton, Maryland Posts: 497	Re: New GoPro CineForm product line is out today. Congrats CineForm! Very cool! Simon

January 19th, 2012, 01:39 AM	#29
James Park Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon Posts: 58	Re: New GoPro CineForm product line is out today. OK.. installed it. I'm sold. Everything looks great. I like the new cleaner consolidated more responsive interface in Cineform Studio. This is much better than the separate FirstLight and HDLink interface. I still need HDLink though because there is no capture utility in Studio. I remember reading an older post that you guys wanted to phase it out and have either Blackmagic or Aja support it natively. I haven't heard or seen anything on their end so far, so I hope you guys keep HDLink around (regardless how ugly it looks) until they get a solution... If you guys decide to integrate capture feature here or within NLE support or just keep as is and change the look then that be great too. As far as reverting back to old projects (from Neo 5.5.2), they open in Premiere only under "Desktop Mode". I can playback and scrub the timeline and everything seems normal. CF dissolves, transitions all seem to work fine as well. But am I missing something? Is there anything different underneath the hood without the CF preset? (i.e. CPU optimization, utilization, etc...) I notice I got the yellow render lines again which I havent seen in a while but I know that's just cosmetic and not an issue. Overall, this is nice improvement. To keep my copy current at $49 and get the good ol support, that's a no brainer... Last edited by James Park; January 19th, 2012 at 03:22 AM.

January 19th, 2012, 03:19 AM	#30
Gerald Webb Trustee Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Coast Australia Posts: 1,046	Re: New GoPro CineForm product line is out today. Just thinking, regarding capture of HDV, Is there any difference in capturing in Vegas, then converting to Cineform from the Vegas timeline. as opposed to, Capturing and converting with HD Link since HD link captures an M2T file first then converts it to Cineform? Is there a quality difference? Or is it just a time saver since the capture and convert is automated? __________________ http://vimeo.com/livewebvideo