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Laurence Kingston · April 18th, 2011, 06:00 PM

Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player on my PC anymore. Is it just me or is this a problem for others as well? I'm using an HP Core2Duo laptop with 8GB of RAM and two 750 GB 7200 RPM hard drives.

Ray Bell · April 18th, 2011, 06:08 PM

Try Media Player Classic... thats the one to use with Cineform...

Chris Barcellos · April 18th, 2011, 09:02 PM

Still playing for me.

Laurence Kingston · April 19th, 2011, 11:41 AM

I uninstalled Cineform Neo HD and reinstalled the latest version. The same, no playback in media player. I installed the 64 bit version of Windows Media Player Classic. That works, but the video is stretched vertically (1440 to 1920) and the playback is not smooth. I tried running the accelerated playback script from the Cineform tools, and it just opened in notepad instead of running.

Laurence Kingston · April 27th, 2011, 09:01 AM

I just switched over from Neo HD to Neo. I still can't play Cineform files properly directly in Windows using media player, VLC, media player classic, etc. VLC doesn't work at all, WMP plays the audio with a static single upside down and weirdly scaled image in the viewer, and Windows Media Player Classic plays the image upside down and with the top and bottom separated like it was trying to decipher a 3D image (with a non-3d image). I can use the Cineform avi clips in Vegas fine, but I can't view them directly in Windows. I have tried any number of combinations using the Cineform settings menu in the tray, and none of them seem to help.

David Newman · April 27th, 2011, 09:32 AM

This is not an issue with Neo, rather something wrong in your install. You will have to work through this with support.

Laurence Kingston · April 27th, 2011, 10:12 AM

So nobody else is having this problem? Just me? Cool, I did an uninstall of Neo HD before I installed Neo and the problem persisted through the uninstall and reinstall. I'll mess around a little more then contact Cineform support if I can't figure it out. In the mean time, I would love to know if anyone else has this problem.

Laurence Kingston · April 27th, 2011, 12:13 PM

OK, I've figured some of it out. There are currently both 32 and 64 bit versions of Media Player Classic. Since I have Windows 7 64 bit, I was using the 64 bit version of Media Player Classic. Viewing Cineform AVI clips with the 64 bit player doesn't work properly right now. Playback with the 32 bit version of Media Player Classic is better.

Another strange thing with Media Player Classic: Fast Desktop Playback gives 1/4 resolution and regular playback gives half resolution. Not a horrible problem, but it is a little frustrating.

Download Media Player Classic Home Cinema, Free Video Player Download

Irfanview player works OK with Cineform AVI

Topaz Moment (a media player with screen still capturing) will play back Cineform video but not the audio.

Quicktime will playback Cineform fine (but I hate Quicktime on Windows because it is so inefficient).

Clayton Spinney · May 9th, 2011, 07:49 PM

Sorry to bump this, but I registered specifically because of this thread, and it takes forever to be confirmed as a human on this board.

I was wondering if you'd found anything else on this, as I'd recently (well, a few weeks ago) been hit with the same problem. Windows Media Player just randomly stopped playing anything but sound on AVI's that came from NeoScene. It didn't seem to coincide with any updates that happened anywhere either, as far as I can tell. And as I messed around with it, I found that none of the other players I have, media player classic, DivX player, etc. could play the video. And the program I use for compositing, FXHome Visionlab, crashes the second I try to import a Cineform encoded AVI. Even older projects that were previously working fine crash when I try to open them. IF they contain a Cineform AVI. Any projects with other types of media are fine. Sony Vegas seems to be the only thing that's still cool with the Cineform encoding.

I tried updating my K-lite codec pack (back before I was aware of the Visionlab crashing), updating DivX, Media Player, but nothing worked. I don't dare uninstall and reinstall NeoScene, because I can NEVER get that to go down cleanly. I couldn't find anything useful on the Cineform website, and this seems to be the only active forum that has a Cineform community.

David Newman · May 9th, 2011, 08:42 PM

You have a support issue, this not a general problem, it seem you have messes up DirectShow decoding. Please file a trouble ticket. You can always safely uninstall and reinstall any CineForm tool as that doesn't change the activation. Do not deactivate (that is only for moving a license to a new PC.)

April 18th, 2011, 06:00 PM	#1
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player on my PC anymore. Is it just me or is this a problem for others as well? I'm using an HP Core2Duo laptop with 8GB of RAM and two 750 GB 7200 RPM hard drives.

April 18th, 2011, 06:08 PM	#2
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Re: Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. Try Media Player Classic... thats the one to use with Cineform...

April 18th, 2011, 09:02 PM	#3
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	Re: Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. Still playing for me. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

April 19th, 2011, 11:41 AM	#4
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Re: Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. I uninstalled Cineform Neo HD and reinstalled the latest version. The same, no playback in media player. I installed the 64 bit version of Windows Media Player Classic. That works, but the video is stretched vertically (1440 to 1920) and the playback is not smooth. I tried running the accelerated playback script from the Cineform tools, and it just opened in notepad instead of running.

April 27th, 2011, 09:01 AM	#5
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Re: Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. I just switched over from Neo HD to Neo. I still can't play Cineform files properly directly in Windows using media player, VLC, media player classic, etc. VLC doesn't work at all, WMP plays the audio with a static single upside down and weirdly scaled image in the viewer, and Windows Media Player Classic plays the image upside down and with the top and bottom separated like it was trying to decipher a 3D image (with a non-3d image). I can use the Cineform avi clips in Vegas fine, but I can't view them directly in Windows. I have tried any number of combinations using the Cineform settings menu in the tray, and none of them seem to help.

April 27th, 2011, 09:32 AM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Re: Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. This is not an issue with Neo, rather something wrong in your install. You will have to work through this with support. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 27th, 2011, 10:12 AM	#7
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Re: Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. So nobody else is having this problem? Just me? Cool, I did an uninstall of Neo HD before I installed Neo and the problem persisted through the uninstall and reinstall. I'll mess around a little more then contact Cineform support if I can't figure it out. In the mean time, I would love to know if anyone else has this problem.

April 27th, 2011, 12:13 PM	#8
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Re: Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. OK, I've figured some of it out. There are currently both 32 and 64 bit versions of Media Player Classic. Since I have Windows 7 64 bit, I was using the 64 bit version of Media Player Classic. Viewing Cineform AVI clips with the 64 bit player doesn't work properly right now. Playback with the 32 bit version of Media Player Classic is better. Another strange thing with Media Player Classic: Fast Desktop Playback gives 1/4 resolution and regular playback gives half resolution. Not a horrible problem, but it is a little frustrating. Download Media Player Classic Home Cinema, Free Video Player Download Irfanview player works OK with Cineform AVI Topaz Moment (a media player with screen still capturing) will play back Cineform video but not the audio. Quicktime will playback Cineform fine (but I hate Quicktime on Windows because it is so inefficient).

May 9th, 2011, 07:49 PM	#9
Clayton Spinney Tourist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Jefferson, Maine Posts: 1	Re: Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. Sorry to bump this, but I registered specifically because of this thread, and it takes forever to be confirmed as a human on this board. I was wondering if you'd found anything else on this, as I'd recently (well, a few weeks ago) been hit with the same problem. Windows Media Player just randomly stopped playing anything but sound on AVI's that came from NeoScene. It didn't seem to coincide with any updates that happened anywhere either, as far as I can tell. And as I messed around with it, I found that none of the other players I have, media player classic, DivX player, etc. could play the video. And the program I use for compositing, FXHome Visionlab, crashes the second I try to import a Cineform encoded AVI. Even older projects that were previously working fine crash when I try to open them. IF they contain a Cineform AVI. Any projects with other types of media are fine. Sony Vegas seems to be the only thing that's still cool with the Cineform encoding. I tried updating my K-lite codec pack (back before I was aware of the Visionlab crashing), updating DivX, Media Player, but nothing worked. I don't dare uninstall and reinstall NeoScene, because I can NEVER get that to go down cleanly. I couldn't find anything useful on the Cineform website, and this seems to be the only active forum that has a Cineform community.

May 9th, 2011, 08:42 PM	#10
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Re: Cineform AVIs no longer play back with Windows Media Player. You have a support issue, this not a general problem, it seem you have messes up DirectShow decoding. Please file a trouble ticket. You can always safely uninstall and reinstall any CineForm tool as that doesn't change the activation. Do not deactivate (that is only for moving a license to a new PC.) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman