HDlink vs neoscene at DVinfo.net

Jeff Harper · March 29th, 2011, 11:46 AM

I used HD link (trial) for converting AVCHD footage and loved it. But I don't want to pay $400 for it!

I just read something that makes me believe that neoscene is essentially the same thing as HDlink, it's just the standalone version.

Is that correct? Will Neoscene perform the same functions as HDlink?

David Newman · March 29th, 2011, 06:21 PM

If you only want to convert AVCHD, then you are mostly correct, although there are a few more conversion options within HDlink. The big value add for NeoHD is FirstLight, if you haven't used it, you don't know what you are missing.

Jeff Harper · March 29th, 2011, 08:11 PM

David, thanks for your post. FirstLight looks like a lot for the money.

Laurence Kingston · April 1st, 2011, 11:17 PM

There's also the scaling algorithms. Let's say you are working at 1920x1080 and you want to use some 720p footage. HD Link can scale it to the higher resolution during the conversion with algorithms that look one heck of a lot nicer than the scaling in your editor.

Mark Watson · April 2nd, 2011, 12:50 AM

Jeff,

I started with NeoScene and then got HDLink when I found out I needed it for the scaling feature. The nice thing is, they applied full credit of my NeoScene purchase towards the HDLink purchase. So it's safe to start with NeoScene and upgrade later if you need to. Just need to have your license number handy during the ordering process.

Mark

Jeff Harper · April 2nd, 2011, 04:43 AM

Thanks for your feedback guys.

I'm going to be working with three cameras this year, two of which will be in 720p mode and one of which that will be in 1080i.

The vast majority of my output will be to SD. On occasion I will need the option to output to Bluray and SD.

Can you suggest a work-flow for each scenario?

My plan up to now has been to convert all footage with NeoScene to avi, then edit and render avis to mpeg 2.

Not sure about the time I'll need bluray, how to proceed. Any suggestions?

Dale Guthormsen · April 3rd, 2011, 05:54 PM

Jeff,

a couple thoughts:

It might be worth the investment to get hdlink for scaling purposes and first light.

However, I capture everything with Neoscene, I output 90% bluray so that is a simple job with Vegas or Edius.

For converting to Sd I use Vegas, though I do have virtual dub no normal mortals can even tell the difference so I keep it simple with Vegas.

for scaling up I use boris red instant hd.

It might be just quicker and simplier to use one piece of software. I should do this myself!!

March 29th, 2011, 11:46 AM	#1
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	HDlink vs neoscene I used HD link (trial) for converting AVCHD footage and loved it. But I don't want to pay $400 for it! I just read something that makes me believe that neoscene is essentially the same thing as HDlink, it's just the standalone version. Is that correct? Will Neoscene perform the same functions as HDlink? __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

March 29th, 2011, 06:21 PM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Re: HDlink vs neoscene If you only want to convert AVCHD, then you are mostly correct, although there are a few more conversion options within HDlink. The big value add for NeoHD is FirstLight, if you haven't used it, you don't know what you are missing. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 29th, 2011, 08:11 PM	#3
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: HDlink vs neoscene David, thanks for your post. FirstLight looks like a lot for the money. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 1st, 2011, 11:17 PM	#4
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	Re: HDlink vs neoscene There's also the scaling algorithms. Let's say you are working at 1920x1080 and you want to use some 720p footage. HD Link can scale it to the higher resolution during the conversion with algorithms that look one heck of a lot nicer than the scaling in your editor.

April 2nd, 2011, 12:50 AM	#5
Mark Watson Major Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Whidbey Island Posts: 873	Re: HDlink vs neoscene Jeff, I started with NeoScene and then got HDLink when I found out I needed it for the scaling feature. The nice thing is, they applied full credit of my NeoScene purchase towards the HDLink purchase. So it's safe to start with NeoScene and upgrade later if you need to. Just need to have your license number handy during the ordering process. Mark

April 2nd, 2011, 04:43 AM	#6
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: HDlink vs neoscene Thanks for your feedback guys. I'm going to be working with three cameras this year, two of which will be in 720p mode and one of which that will be in 1080i. The vast majority of my output will be to SD. On occasion I will need the option to output to Bluray and SD. Can you suggest a work-flow for each scenario? My plan up to now has been to convert all footage with NeoScene to avi, then edit and render avis to mpeg 2. Not sure about the time I'll need bluray, how to proceed. Any suggestions? __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 3rd, 2011, 05:54 PM	#7
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: HDlink vs neoscene Jeff, a couple thoughts: It might be worth the investment to get hdlink for scaling purposes and first light. However, I capture everything with Neoscene, I output 90% bluray so that is a simple job with Vegas or Edius. For converting to Sd I use Vegas, though I do have virtual dub no normal mortals can even tell the difference so I keep it simple with Vegas. for scaling up I use boris red instant hd. It might be just quicker and simplier to use one piece of software. I should do this myself!! __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen