AF100 -> KiPro -> Avid at DVinfo.net

Ben Hickson · January 24th, 2011, 08:06 PM

Okay so I just wrapped production on what I think is the first narrative short shot with the AF100.

We recorded over HD-SDI to the AJA Ki-Pro at 23.98. No overcrank or anything like that, just basic 1920x1080 23.98 ProRes files. It was at the highest ProRes setting the Ki-Pro has.

What settings would I use to go to Cineform? What would I gain?

The guy who set it all up wants to stay in Media Composer. Is cineform/firstlight 10/12-bit all that supported in Media Composer? Is it VFW or DirectShow or SDK? Basically, if I'm finishing in Media Composer, should I use ProRes or Cineform and why? If I had to convert to ProRes, then it would be a no-brainer, but since it was recorded in ProRes should I just edit this first-generation?

Thank you again so much.

Stephen Mick · January 24th, 2011, 08:58 PM

If you've recorded in ProRes, I see no reason to transcode to Cineform after the fact. And I believe Avid MC5 will be able to link to and work with the files as recorded using "Link to AMA Files."

Oh, and here's the trailer for the first narrative short shot with the AF-100…

Cheers!

David Newman · January 24th, 2011, 09:13 PM

If you are finishing in Media Composer, you do have an issue, as I believe MC filters are 8-bit only. 8-bit is fine for off-line work, which MC excels. This 8-bit filtering would impact both CineForm or ProRES imports, however it impacts ProRES more greatly, as you only get to color correct in MC (8-bit CC is not good.) With the CineForm file you get the 10/12-bit advantages of color correcting in FirstLight -- while the MC render will only use the top 8-bits, they are the best 8-bit at that point as CC is already done.

Ben Hickson · January 25th, 2011, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Mick

If you've recorded in ProRes, I see no reason to transcode to Cineform after the fact. And I believe Avid MC5 will be able to link to and work with the files as recorded using "Link to AMA Files."

Oh, and here's the trailer for the first narrative short shot with the AF-100…
"A Verse Before Dying" on Vimeo

Cheers!

Where can I watch the film? I see this trailer everywhere, but not the video.

January 24th, 2011, 08:06 PM	#1
Ben Hickson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: New York, NY Posts: 55	AF100 -> KiPro -> Avid Okay so I just wrapped production on what I think is the first narrative short shot with the AF100. We recorded over HD-SDI to the AJA Ki-Pro at 23.98. No overcrank or anything like that, just basic 1920x1080 23.98 ProRes files. It was at the highest ProRes setting the Ki-Pro has. What settings would I use to go to Cineform? What would I gain? The guy who set it all up wants to stay in Media Composer. Is cineform/firstlight 10/12-bit all that supported in Media Composer? Is it VFW or DirectShow or SDK? Basically, if I'm finishing in Media Composer, should I use ProRes or Cineform and why? If I had to convert to ProRes, then it would be a no-brainer, but since it was recorded in ProRes should I just edit this first-generation? Thank you again so much.

January 24th, 2011, 09:13 PM	#3
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	If you are finishing in Media Composer, you do have an issue, as I believe MC filters are 8-bit only. 8-bit is fine for off-line work, which MC excels. This 8-bit filtering would impact both CineForm or ProRES imports, however it impacts ProRES more greatly, as you only get to color correct in MC (8-bit CC is not good.) With the CineForm file you get the 10/12-bit advantages of color correcting in FirstLight -- while the MC render will only use the top 8-bits, they are the best 8-bit at that point as CC is already done. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

January 24th, 2011, 08:58 PM	#2
Stephen Mick Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 167	If you've recorded in ProRes, I see no reason to transcode to Cineform after the fact. And I believe Avid MC5 will be able to link to and work with the files as recorded using "Link to AMA Files." Oh, and here's the trailer for the first narrative short shot with the AF-100… "A Verse Before Dying" on Vimeo Cheers!