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Keith Gresham · July 8th, 2010, 09:36 PM

When I convert AVCHD footage from a Canon HF10 (FXP mode - 1920x1080 Full HD Recording @ 17Mbps and 24p) the converted file will play in Media Player but not Quicktime. In Quicktime it shows up as a white screen with sound. This is how it imports into MC5 too - white screen with sound. If I convert the Cineform file to DNxHD and then import it, all is fine. (In fact the footage is awesome, better than using any other method I have tried, and I have tried most of them.) I'm sure that if I can get the Quicktime problem figured out, the file will import correctly and I can skip one whole conversion step. In fact the AMA linking might even work then.

So what am I doing wrong? Do I need Quicktime Pro or is there a missing plugin? Help!

Keith

David Newman · July 8th, 2010, 09:51 PM

Currently NeoScene doesn't come with the QuickTime codec, I believe there was once a technical reason for this (likely since solved -- looking into that.) In the meantime download a trial of NeoHD, and you will find CineForm files work great with the new MC5 AMA link.

Keith Gresham · July 8th, 2010, 10:33 PM

I'm sold. I downloaded the NeoHD trial and it works great! AMA linking is perfect. OK, so I missed your deadline of June 15th, and I just spent $49 upgrading Neo Scene from ver. 1. Can you help a fellow NC San Diegan out? Otherwise I might have to wait until ver 6 and hope you have another deal...

Keith

David Newman · July 8th, 2010, 10:44 PM

Email dtaylor at cineform to see if you can swing that old deal.

Munim Tarafdar · July 9th, 2010, 09:48 AM

Downloaded the new trial version of Neo Hd v5. Ok the problem iam having when using HD Link is when iam capturing via intensity using the medium quality setting is the after the file size reaches 7gb the computer freezes.

here is my computer specs

Dual core 2.66ghz intel cpu
4gb ddr3 ram
main drive micro sata 120gb
video drive 2.5inch 5200rpm 250gb hardrive
Graphics onboard GMA X4500 Graphics.
Black Magic Intensity
OS win 7 ultimate.

Any clues whats going on?

David Newman · July 9th, 2010, 11:11 AM

That drive might be too slow. There are no size restrictions.

Munim Tarafdar · July 9th, 2010, 11:28 AM

Interesting, i will have to look further in to that because i just did a test on the same machine by capturing Dvc Pro HD via cs5 and i captured 35 gb (just over half hour) in one go and kept perfect audio sync.
also the drive is a Fujitsu 250gb sata and on the black magic speed test it measures 85mbs?
its a brand new drive as well only 3 weeks old, and the drive is empty, formatted NTFS.
i will try it out my 3.5inch 2tb hard disk and get back to you with the results.
Iam pretty sure it aint the drive though but we shall see.
Also does Dvc Pro HD not have a higher data rate then Neo Hd?

David Newman · July 9th, 2010, 01:25 PM

I only question the drive (and now the system) as it is locking up. We have companies doing 24 hour HDSDI captures in CineForm, so something is going wrong on that system.

Munim Tarafdar · July 10th, 2010, 03:26 AM

Last night i did another capture of dvcpro hd for over and hour not a glitch, will try with JPEG2000 as well.
I have another test rig which i can install neo hd. also the system is practically bare, just cineform, and CS5. i wonder if any one else has encountered this?
Iam wondering if its cos iam usiing win 7 ultimate instead of home or pro?

Munim Tarafdar · July 12th, 2010, 04:32 AM

Just thought i would let every one know i finally got NEO HD working, and not freezing after 7gb of capture.
I basically did a fresh install of the OS and then NEO HD and it all seems to run ok.
O will now gve it a shake down.

Thanks David for taking the time to chime in.

July 8th, 2010, 09:36 PM	#1
Keith Gresham New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 7	Neo Scene 5.0.5 Build 264 and MC5 When I convert AVCHD footage from a Canon HF10 (FXP mode - 1920x1080 Full HD Recording @ 17Mbps and 24p) the converted file will play in Media Player but not Quicktime. In Quicktime it shows up as a white screen with sound. This is how it imports into MC5 too - white screen with sound. If I convert the Cineform file to DNxHD and then import it, all is fine. (In fact the footage is awesome, better than using any other method I have tried, and I have tried most of them.) I'm sure that if I can get the Quicktime problem figured out, the file will import correctly and I can skip one whole conversion step. In fact the AMA linking might even work then. So what am I doing wrong? Do I need Quicktime Pro or is there a missing plugin? Help! Keith

July 8th, 2010, 09:51 PM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Currently NeoScene doesn't come with the QuickTime codec, I believe there was once a technical reason for this (likely since solved -- looking into that.) In the meantime download a trial of NeoHD, and you will find CineForm files work great with the new MC5 AMA link. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

July 8th, 2010, 10:33 PM	#3
Keith Gresham New Boot Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 7	Sold! I'm sold. I downloaded the NeoHD trial and it works great! AMA linking is perfect. OK, so I missed your deadline of June 15th, and I just spent $49 upgrading Neo Scene from ver. 1. Can you help a fellow NC San Diegan out? Otherwise I might have to wait until ver 6 and hope you have another deal... Keith

July 8th, 2010, 10:44 PM	#4
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Email dtaylor at cineform to see if you can swing that old deal. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

July 9th, 2010, 11:11 AM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	That drive might be too slow. There are no size restrictions. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

July 9th, 2010, 09:48 AM	#5
Munim Tarafdar New Boot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: england Posts: 22	Downloaded the new trial version of Neo Hd v5. Ok the problem iam having when using HD Link is when iam capturing via intensity using the medium quality setting is the after the file size reaches 7gb the computer freezes. here is my computer specs Dual core 2.66ghz intel cpu 4gb ddr3 ram main drive micro sata 120gb video drive 2.5inch 5200rpm 250gb hardrive Graphics onboard GMA X4500 Graphics. Black Magic Intensity OS win 7 ultimate. Any clues whats going on?

July 9th, 2010, 11:28 AM	#7
Munim Tarafdar New Boot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: england Posts: 22	Interesting, i will have to look further in to that because i just did a test on the same machine by capturing Dvc Pro HD via cs5 and i captured 35 gb (just over half hour) in one go and kept perfect audio sync. also the drive is a Fujitsu 250gb sata and on the black magic speed test it measures 85mbs? its a brand new drive as well only 3 weeks old, and the drive is empty, formatted NTFS. i will try it out my 3.5inch 2tb hard disk and get back to you with the results. Iam pretty sure it aint the drive though but we shall see. Also does Dvc Pro HD not have a higher data rate then Neo Hd?

July 9th, 2010, 01:25 PM	#8
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I only question the drive (and now the system) as it is locking up. We have companies doing 24 hour HDSDI captures in CineForm, so something is going wrong on that system. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

July 10th, 2010, 03:26 AM	#9
Munim Tarafdar New Boot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: england Posts: 22	Last night i did another capture of dvcpro hd for over and hour not a glitch, will try with JPEG2000 as well. I have another test rig which i can install neo hd. also the system is practically bare, just cineform, and CS5. i wonder if any one else has encountered this? Iam wondering if its cos iam usiing win 7 ultimate instead of home or pro?

July 12th, 2010, 04:32 AM	#10
Munim Tarafdar New Boot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: england Posts: 22	Just thought i would let every one know i finally got NEO HD working, and not freezing after 7gb of capture. I basically did a fresh install of the OS and then NEO HD and it all seems to run ok. O will now gve it a shake down. Thanks David for taking the time to chime in.