New PC builds for the Neo series at DVinfo.net

David Newman · June 16th, 2010, 02:43 PM

Here are the core changes:

Build 5.0.4.261
Added - support for NVidia Dual SDI from FirstLight (2D and 3D playback.)
Enhanced - restored asynchronous decodes to CS5. (more speed)
Enhanced - Playback under heavy load in CS5.
Enhanced - AVI Thumbnail support in CS5 Adobe Brudge.
Fixed - Avid MC5 compatibilty with the QT decoder.
Fixed - CS3 exports being half height.
Fixed - MOV support in Bridge

Request your update from Cineform and click on downloads (left nav bar.)

Paul Curtis · June 17th, 2010, 12:31 AM

David,

Thank you, i used this last night quite a bit and so far it seems like an improvement on 5.0.3. I can still crash it but nowhere near as much as before (I'm assembling a simple test case for Jake to reproduce). Certainly i've not had the same degree of freeze ups, especially with MBL.

It seems to have cleared up Peak file generation too.

I also upgraded to the very latest nvidia drivers released recently, that may have helped my situation too.

Although i'm still not using the cineform RT engine with my main project. If i create a new sequence and copy over my edits PPro still crashes and i need to restart.

Is there a recommended way for changing sequence settings - does copy and paste not work very well or should it be fine.

Can you explain what the technical differences are with the cineform RT engine - i'm running a GTX285 so what would get me best editing performance?

cheers
paul

Justin Lovell · June 17th, 2010, 08:03 AM

Awesome, installing now! Thanks David, you guys rock!

-----------------
Justin Lovell
cinematographer./8mm.16mm>HD.transfers
3200a yonge st. toronto ont m4n2l1
w. 416.901.5332 m. 416.803.1101
Frame Discreet: Film Transfers and Cinematography

Junior Pascual · June 18th, 2010, 04:47 PM

David,

Using NeoHD 5.04 build 261, I tried to convert some .m2ts files to .mov with HDLink and got an error. This is the first time that I tried to convert to .mov. Never tried it with earlier versions of HDLink. Normally I just convert to .avi to edit in Vegas Pro 9 but this time wanted to convert to .mov to deliver to a FCP user. Otherwise all seem to work fine.

I filled out a ticket with support last night.

Jr. Pascual

David Newman · June 18th, 2010, 07:31 PM

Make sure you have QuickTime installed if you use MOVs.

Junior Pascual · June 19th, 2010, 01:34 PM

I have Quicktime Player version 7.6.6 (1671) installed. Or do I need to purchase Quicktime Pro?

David Newman · June 19th, 2010, 02:13 PM

You don;t need QuickTime Pro, so please file a trouble ticket with support.

Lloyd Coleman · June 19th, 2010, 03:41 PM

David,

I am having problems with my Premiere projects generating peak audio files each time. I have seen a couple of people claim that this new build fixed the problem for them, but it has not for me.

I didn't see any mention that this build addressed the peak audio file problem. Is this a fluke for them or is the problem supposed to be fixed?

Thanks,

Lloyd

David Newman · June 19th, 2010, 06:51 PM

Neither, we don't see how it is our bug, and we have reported it to Adobe. We understand that we must be causing it somehow, but it Adobe the need to determine why it is happening on some systems are not others (and getting less common.) I only have it on a project that used an external drives, the same project with media on local drives doesn't to it.

Lloyd Coleman · June 19th, 2010, 10:14 PM

Thanks David,

I didn't think this update was supposed to necessarily fix the peak file problem, but I saw these other two posts and wondered if maybe it was supposed to be fixed and I was the only one still having the problem.

"It seems to have cleared up Peak file generation too."

"With the new update 5.04 problem is solved. Just import your 5.03 converted files in a new project and..done. No regenerating files anymore.
Thank you Cineform for this quick fix !!"

Oliver Walker · June 21st, 2010, 02:47 AM

alls working good for me with latest build . just installed a 285 to test out acceleration.

But ive had a problem with every version where you create a new project - select output as an external monitor just normal opengl (i dont have a 3d monitor) and then the project starts fresh, then i drag some clips into timeline and nothing appears on my other monitor.
if i go back into project settings and open the external monitor box and press ok for the second time it pops up fine,and works great form then on.

any ideas?
cheers
Oli

Marty Hudzik · June 24th, 2010, 01:05 PM

Is Cineform working to port over any of the transitions that got left behind with Prospect? I really rely on several of the wipes for more organic looks than the very "mechanical" Adobe versions that allow almost no control over them.

I have been using them since Aspect HD and depend on them for certain text animations.

June 16th, 2010, 02:43 PM	#1
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	New PC builds for the Neo series Here are the core changes: Build 5.0.4.261 Added - support for NVidia Dual SDI from FirstLight (2D and 3D playback.) Enhanced - restored asynchronous decodes to CS5. (more speed) Enhanced - Playback under heavy load in CS5. Enhanced - AVI Thumbnail support in CS5 Adobe Brudge. Fixed - Avid MC5 compatibilty with the QT decoder. Fixed - CS3 exports being half height. Fixed - MOV support in Bridge Request your update from Cineform and click on downloads (left nav bar.) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 18th, 2010, 07:31 PM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Make sure you have QuickTime installed if you use MOVs. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 19th, 2010, 02:13 PM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	You don;t need QuickTime Pro, so please file a trouble ticket with support. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 19th, 2010, 06:51 PM	#9
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Neither, we don't see how it is our bug, and we have reported it to Adobe. We understand that we must be causing it somehow, but it Adobe the need to determine why it is happening on some systems are not others (and getting less common.) I only have it on a project that used an external drives, the same project with media on local drives doesn't to it. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

June 21st, 2010, 02:47 AM	#11
Oliver Walker Tourist Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 3	bug maybe ? playback external monitor - doesnt appear first time. alls working good for me with latest build . just installed a 285 to test out acceleration. But ive had a problem with every version where you create a new project - select output as an external monitor just normal opengl (i dont have a 3d monitor) and then the project starts fresh, then i drag some clips into timeline and nothing appears on my other monitor. if i go back into project settings and open the external monitor box and press ok for the second time it pops up fine,and works great form then on. any ideas? cheers Oli

June 17th, 2010, 12:31 AM	#2
Paul Curtis Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canterbury Posts: 411	David, Thank you, i used this last night quite a bit and so far it seems like an improvement on 5.0.3. I can still crash it but nowhere near as much as before (I'm assembling a simple test case for Jake to reproduce). Certainly i've not had the same degree of freeze ups, especially with MBL. It seems to have cleared up Peak file generation too. I also upgraded to the very latest nvidia drivers released recently, that may have helped my situation too. Although i'm still not using the cineform RT engine with my main project. If i create a new sequence and copy over my edits PPro still crashes and i need to restart. Is there a recommended way for changing sequence settings - does copy and paste not work very well or should it be fine. Can you explain what the technical differences are with the cineform RT engine - i'm running a GTX285 so what would get me best editing performance? cheers paul

June 17th, 2010, 08:03 AM	#3
Justin Lovell Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 212	Awesome, installing now! Thanks David, you guys rock! ----------------- Justin Lovell cinematographer./8mm.16mm>HD.transfers 3200a yonge st. toronto ont m4n2l1 w. 416.901.5332 m. 416.803.1101 Frame Discreet: Film Transfers and Cinematography

June 18th, 2010, 04:47 PM	#4
Junior Pascual Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mililani, Hawaii Posts: 89	David, Using NeoHD 5.04 build 261, I tried to convert some .m2ts files to .mov with HDLink and got an error. This is the first time that I tried to convert to .mov. Never tried it with earlier versions of HDLink. Normally I just convert to .avi to edit in Vegas Pro 9 but this time wanted to convert to .mov to deliver to a FCP user. Otherwise all seem to work fine. I filled out a ticket with support last night. Jr. Pascual

June 19th, 2010, 01:34 PM	#6
Junior Pascual Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mililani, Hawaii Posts: 89	I have Quicktime Player version 7.6.6 (1671) installed. Or do I need to purchase Quicktime Pro?

June 19th, 2010, 03:41 PM	#8
Lloyd Coleman Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 256	David, I am having problems with my Premiere projects generating peak audio files each time. I have seen a couple of people claim that this new build fixed the problem for them, but it has not for me. I didn't see any mention that this build addressed the peak audio file problem. Is this a fluke for them or is the problem supposed to be fixed? Thanks, Lloyd

June 19th, 2010, 10:14 PM	#10
Lloyd Coleman Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 256	Thanks David, I didn't think this update was supposed to necessarily fix the peak file problem, but I saw these other two posts and wondered if maybe it was supposed to be fixed and I was the only one still having the problem. "It seems to have cleared up Peak file generation too." "With the new update 5.04 problem is solved. Just import your 5.03 converted files in a new project and..done. No regenerating files anymore. Thank you Cineform for this quick fix !!"

June 24th, 2010, 01:05 PM	#12
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Is Cineform working to port over any of the transitions that got left behind with Prospect? I really rely on several of the wipes for more organic looks than the very "mechanical" Adobe versions that allow almost no control over them. I have been using them since Aspect HD and depend on them for certain text animations.