does NEO not inlcude all filters from Prospect HD at DVinfo.net

Marty Hudzik · May 28th, 2010, 08:40 AM

Working on my first project in CS5 and I am primarily using Adobe filters and plugins. I do need to use some of the really useful Cineform transitions and I am not finding any! Are they not included or is something screwed up on my system?

I know Cineform has a lot of great features beyond this, but I really rely on Cineform wipes as the default Adobe transitions aren't very useful and look dated.

I also notice that after I updated to Premiere CS5 5.01 yesterday via the Adobe updater, that I now only see one reference to CIneform anywhere in the effects area, and that is under video effects;CineForm:Paralax 3d.

There are no other instances of CIneform effects anywhere to be found.

I checked on my laptop which I have not updated to PPRO 5.01 yet and I see additional effects, Cineform Color, Cineform Noise FIlter and in transitions I see Cineform Dissolves (only 2 dissolves in there)

So did I miss an announcement stating that Cineform was doing away with all their transitions in NEO HD or are both my PCs messed up? Especially the PPRO 5.0.1 version as it shows only Parallax 3d....no other cineform tools at all.

Thanks. I hope these filters are still there.

David Newman · May 28th, 2010, 09:01 AM

We didn't know that anyone used the wipes. I'll see if they can be ported to CS5.

Marty Hudzik · May 28th, 2010, 09:59 AM

I am probably the only one! There are 3-4 that I use regularly as an alternative to the wipes that Adobe has. I soften the edges and it makes a more polished wipe for taking some logos and text on and off the screen when I am producing motion graphics. Adobe should really step it up when it comes to some more organic and natural looking transitions as even vegas has more professional looking transitions.

Regardless.....can you clarify what effects I should be seeing with Neo HD in it's current form? Also, any ideas why some of the effects are gone after Adobe updated to PPRO 5.0.1 yesterday?

Thanks a million.

Ian Lewis · May 28th, 2010, 10:40 AM

Me, too. I use the wipes, too. For the right kind of prog they're really useful. I could use something else easily enough, but if they can be ported to CS5, that would be cool...

Marty Hudzik · May 28th, 2010, 11:20 AM

What else would you use?

Rich Perry · May 28th, 2010, 11:35 AM

I agree, would love to see the old effects back in CS5 as all the color corrections and transitions have gone since the upgrade. Although first light is an amazing tool, sometimes it's just easier to make a quick color correction on a clip in the NLE.

David Newman · May 28th, 2010, 11:54 AM

The two color correctors, levels and denoise filter where ported. Only the wipes weren't ported.

Marty Hudzik · May 28th, 2010, 12:48 PM

David,
On my laptop I am seeing one folder in the transitions called Cineform but it contains only an additive dissolve and a cross dissolve. I am currently downloading CS5 PPRO 5.0.1 and will see if these disappear as my main machine lost these when I updated.

Marty

Edwin Baldwin · May 28th, 2010, 03:05 PM

I updated to CS5 PP 5.0.1 and I have:

Video Effects
Cineform - Paralax 3D

Cineform Color - Color Balance 32- bit
Color Corrector 32 bit
Levels - 32 bit

Cineform Nosie Filter (non RT)

Video Transitions
Cineform Dissolves - Additive Dissolve
Cross Dissolve 32 bit

Ed B

Marty Hudzik · May 28th, 2010, 10:24 PM

I just noticed on my laptop that after the 5.0.1 update I am seeing a CF logo at the top of the effects section that allows me to click on it and then I see only the Cineform effects. PRetty cool! I also see 2 cineform transitions still.

However on the machine that is still giving me issues, I do not see this and several effects seem to be missing. I am beginning to wonder if I accidentally installed the beta instead of the full release....

hmmm......

May 28th, 2010, 08:40 AM	#1
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	does NEO not inlcude all filters from Prospect HD Working on my first project in CS5 and I am primarily using Adobe filters and plugins. I do need to use some of the really useful Cineform transitions and I am not finding any! Are they not included or is something screwed up on my system? I know Cineform has a lot of great features beyond this, but I really rely on Cineform wipes as the default Adobe transitions aren't very useful and look dated. I also notice that after I updated to Premiere CS5 5.01 yesterday via the Adobe updater, that I now only see one reference to CIneform anywhere in the effects area, and that is under video effects;CineForm:Paralax 3d. There are no other instances of CIneform effects anywhere to be found. I checked on my laptop which I have not updated to PPRO 5.01 yet and I see additional effects, Cineform Color, Cineform Noise FIlter and in transitions I see Cineform Dissolves (only 2 dissolves in there) So did I miss an announcement stating that Cineform was doing away with all their transitions in NEO HD or are both my PCs messed up? Especially the PPRO 5.0.1 version as it shows only Parallax 3d....no other cineform tools at all. Thanks. I hope these filters are still there.

May 28th, 2010, 09:01 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	We didn't know that anyone used the wipes. I'll see if they can be ported to CS5. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 28th, 2010, 11:54 AM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	The two color correctors, levels and denoise filter where ported. Only the wipes weren't ported. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 28th, 2010, 09:59 AM	#3
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	I am probably the only one! There are 3-4 that I use regularly as an alternative to the wipes that Adobe has. I soften the edges and it makes a more polished wipe for taking some logos and text on and off the screen when I am producing motion graphics. Adobe should really step it up when it comes to some more organic and natural looking transitions as even vegas has more professional looking transitions. Regardless.....can you clarify what effects I should be seeing with Neo HD in it's current form? Also, any ideas why some of the effects are gone after Adobe updated to PPRO 5.0.1 yesterday? Thanks a million.

May 28th, 2010, 10:40 AM	#4
Ian Lewis Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Farnham, UK Posts: 87	Me, too. I use the wipes, too. For the right kind of prog they're really useful. I could use something else easily enough, but if they can be ported to CS5, that would be cool...

May 28th, 2010, 11:20 AM	#5
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	What else would you use?

May 28th, 2010, 11:35 AM	#6
Rich Perry Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nashua NH Posts: 278	I agree, would love to see the old effects back in CS5 as all the color corrections and transitions have gone since the upgrade. Although first light is an amazing tool, sometimes it's just easier to make a quick color correction on a clip in the NLE.

May 28th, 2010, 12:48 PM	#8
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	David, On my laptop I am seeing one folder in the transitions called Cineform but it contains only an additive dissolve and a cross dissolve. I am currently downloading CS5 PPRO 5.0.1 and will see if these disappear as my main machine lost these when I updated. Marty

May 28th, 2010, 03:05 PM	#9
Edwin Baldwin Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Endicott New York Posts: 54	I updated to CS5 PP 5.0.1 and I have: Video Effects Cineform - Paralax 3D Cineform Color - Color Balance 32- bit Color Corrector 32 bit Levels - 32 bit Cineform Nosie Filter (non RT) Video Transitions Cineform Dissolves - Additive Dissolve Cross Dissolve 32 bit Ed B

May 28th, 2010, 10:24 PM	#10
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	I just noticed on my laptop that after the 5.0.1 update I am seeing a CF logo at the top of the effects section that allows me to click on it and then I see only the Cineform effects. PRetty cool! I also see 2 cineform transitions still. However on the machine that is still giving me issues, I do not see this and several effects seem to be missing. I am beginning to wonder if I accidentally installed the beta instead of the full release.... hmmm......