Cineform and PPro rendering time

David Dwyer · May 3rd, 2010, 08:39 AM

Installed PHD,

Opened my project and tried to change it to Cineform AVI. Didn't have that option so closed that project and opened a new one, now using the Cineform presets that I didn't have before.

Then I imported my custom sequence into this new CineForm project and cut/pasted into the default CineForm sequence 01. Confirmed it was using CineForm Codec. Tried to render and it crashed CS4.

Opened again clicked through and noticed this black line

http://www.northern-loop.tv/Pictures...%20project.JPG

I removed the 10% crop and then added again and it went, very odd.

Because this is a new project I am going to need remove this crop to fix this black line issue and render the entire project again to do the export test.

ETA 2 hours.

**EDIT**

Wasnt the crop it was the logo, disabled and enabled it and the line went - Rendering the clip now and will do the export asap.

http://www.northern-loop.tv/Pictures...20sequence.JPG

Marty Baggen · May 3rd, 2010, 08:58 AM

Does your Preview Files mode now show Cineform AVI as the format?

David Dwyer · May 3rd, 2010, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Baggen

Does your Preview Files mode now show Cineform AVI as the format?

Yes and to double check I looked at the output rendered file and check the file properties.

I only has Microsoft AVI and MPEG before I installed PHD.

Marty Baggen · May 3rd, 2010, 09:18 AM

Perfect.... it's all starting to make sense, except for how your export speed improved so drastically even though your preview files were not Cineform encoded to match your output. Weird.

Curious to see how your export times compare to your previous Neo setup.

David Dwyer · May 3rd, 2010, 09:22 AM

Dunno but we'll find out in 1hr 43mins - Rubbish PC!

I'm hoping for a quciker export but not sure.

Project is 21mins long with lots of effects and colours. To go from 6-8 hours without preview files ticked and then 30mins with ticked but using the MPEG created files.

One would of thought it would be even quicker using CFHD to CFHD?

Rather than CFHD - MPEG - CFHD?

Time will tell!

David Dwyer · May 4th, 2010, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Baggen

Perfect.... it's all starting to make sense, except for how your export speed improved so drastically even though your preview files were not Cineform encoded to match your output. Weird.

Curious to see how your export times compare to your previous Neo setup.

Well it seem to take ages to render but I left it overnight. Woke up this morning and it had finished so the big test.

CFHD with PHD to CFHD using preview files = 30/35mins the same as NeoHD using MPEG preview files rendering out to CFHD.

I can't see any big differences between the two files.

May 3rd, 2010, 08:39 AM	#31
David Dwyer Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester, North West Posts: 565	Installed PHD, Opened my project and tried to change it to Cineform AVI. Didn't have that option so closed that project and opened a new one, now using the Cineform presets that I didn't have before. Then I imported my custom sequence into this new CineForm project and cut/pasted into the default CineForm sequence 01. Confirmed it was using CineForm Codec. Tried to render and it crashed CS4. Opened again clicked through and noticed this black line http://www.northern-loop.tv/Pictures...%20project.JPG I removed the 10% crop and then added again and it went, very odd. Because this is a new project I am going to need remove this crop to fix this black line issue and render the entire project again to do the export test. ETA 2 hours. EDIT Wasnt the crop it was the logo, disabled and enabled it and the line went - Rendering the clip now and will do the export asap. http://www.northern-loop.tv/Pictures...20sequence.JPG

May 3rd, 2010, 08:58 AM	#32
Marty Baggen Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: monroe, or Posts: 572	Does your Preview Files mode now show Cineform AVI as the format?

May 3rd, 2010, 09:18 AM	#34
Marty Baggen Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: monroe, or Posts: 572	Perfect.... it's all starting to make sense, except for how your export speed improved so drastically even though your preview files were not Cineform encoded to match your output. Weird. Curious to see how your export times compare to your previous Neo setup.

May 3rd, 2010, 09:22 AM	#35
David Dwyer Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester, North West Posts: 565	Dunno but we'll find out in 1hr 43mins - Rubbish PC! I'm hoping for a quciker export but not sure. Project is 21mins long with lots of effects and colours. To go from 6-8 hours without preview files ticked and then 30mins with ticked but using the MPEG created files. One would of thought it would be even quicker using CFHD to CFHD? Rather than CFHD - MPEG - CFHD? Time will tell!