Some questions about Aspect HD

Peter Ferling · March 6th, 2007, 09:01 AM

Rafael, cineform support's response time is top notch. You can transfer the license at will, and the server responds almost immediately (had a couple times where it took 24hr, otherwise, it was more like a minute).

This license is like the dongle that you never have to carry around or lose, or more like a having a combination lock vs. one requiring a physical key. (You have to get into the habit of remembering to transfer the license).

If you ever run into licensing issues, or something goes amiss on the machine, they can reset the server database so you can reactive the license.

If it wasn't for cineform, I'd have dropped Premiere Pro completely and moved on to something else... something more expensive.

David Newman · March 6th, 2007, 09:50 AM

1. That was answered a few days ago here : http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=87877 -- you will need at least two licenses for three installations.

2. You can easy move the license with a deactivation.

3. Unfortunately third party filters are not accelaratored by Aspect HD. Aspect HD provides the core RT filters for 99% of most production work. Other filters can be used and scrubbed for preview but they need to be render for output.

Rafael Lopes · March 6th, 2007, 10:44 AM

Thanks guys. I'm simply amazed by aspect hd. This software is amazing. As soon as I have some cash to spare I will buy it for sure. The footage simply
"flies" on the timeline. It's unbelievable how fast it gets...not only with premiere, but with after effect (which is usually way slower than premiere) everything is so freaking smooth. I love it!

Matthew Pugerude · March 7th, 2007, 03:02 PM

Has any captured in final Cut to quicktime and used Premiere to edit with Aspect HD. I have a sitution that I am going to be shooting with the JVC HD100. I can not take the camera back to my edit suite so I was going to have the owner of the camera capture the tapes to a harddrive before I left for home 3 hours away. How should he capture the files? Will this work? I guess the other big question if the guy downloaded the Beta for Mac could I then open the files in premiere given that I am using Aspect and the Mac is going to be Prospect product. I think that is right.

David Newman · March 7th, 2007, 04:11 PM

The files generated on the Mac can only open under Prospect HD today. For Aspect HD we will likely offer the MOV to AVI conversion through HDLink.

Matthew Pugerude · March 7th, 2007, 04:18 PM

So can I use HD link for this now or in the future Nevermind I get it not now but in the future

David Newman · March 7th, 2007, 04:36 PM

If you installed QuickTime Alternative (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/...lternative.htm) you might be able to convert Mac created CineForm MOVs to AVI using Aspect HD HDlink. That is untested.

Jim Gunn · March 27th, 2007, 05:20 PM

Is anyone getting away with using Aspect HD with Premiere Pro on a P4? I know this represents the very lowest minimum system requirements, but I have a 2.6 Ghz Win XP system and was wondering if it would run Aspect HD with Premiere Pro 1.5.1 that I already have on there assuming my hard drives are fast enough 7200 rpm and with a Gig and a quarter of ram.

Steven Gotz · March 27th, 2007, 05:29 PM

I ran Aspect HD with Premiere Pro 2.0 on a 3GHz P4 up until late last year. So yes, it works. I had run with Premiere Pro 1.5.1 prior to that.

Pete Bauer · March 27th, 2007, 05:35 PM

Same here; I used to run a P4 3.00 with 2GB of RAM. It'll work, but my experience was that even with AspectHD more than a couple of longer tracks started to bog it down. I'm pretty sure a 2.6 will work acceptably if the project doesn't get too complex.

But honestly, getting yourself a Core2 system is a relative bargain and will make life in HD-land so much happier, especially if you do complex projects or any After Effects work!

Steven Gotz · March 27th, 2007, 05:37 PM

You want to have some fun?

Buy a dual or quad core, add 4GB RAM, a 10K rpm system drive and a RAID0 for video, with one more drive for scratch disks.

Use Aspect HD and it flies like the wind!

Lemeng Zhang · March 28th, 2007, 11:43 PM

Hi everyone, I can't decide which HD software I should buy, CineForm Aspect HD or Avid Xpress Pro HD? I'd been working with Adobe Premium Pro 2.0 for a while, and tryied Cineform for few days ( but I didn't get chance to export to see the final video result ).

Any suggestion would be appreciated.

Bart Walczak · March 29th, 2007, 04:27 AM

What is your input source and format?

Lemeng Zhang · March 29th, 2007, 10:17 AM

Hi Bart,

Currently, my footage is Sony FX1 HDV1080i format, in the future I'll probably go for JVC HD200 30P or 50P.

Thanks!

Michael Barrette · March 30th, 2007, 04:45 PM

Currently using Premiere Pro 2.0 with new system (fast for a notebook, but still a notebook). I'm having serious trouble with exports, everything else seems to work fine with HDV.

If I spring for the Aspect HDV, is this going to help speed up and make my exports work great? Specifically, HDV - Tape and HDV - WM9 HDV or other back up method. Also web video export?

Is Aspect the right tool for this, or do I need to get Canopus ProCoder for this?

If so, is Aspect really only to help me speed up the HDV in the timeline and be able to work with more layers etc? OR is it that in addition to a better coder? Do aspect users often also purchase ProCoder or does Aspect do most of what Procoder does?

Thanks!
Michael

March 6th, 2007, 09:01 AM	#151
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Rafael, cineform support's response time is top notch. You can transfer the license at will, and the server responds almost immediately (had a couple times where it took 24hr, otherwise, it was more like a minute). This license is like the dongle that you never have to carry around or lose, or more like a having a combination lock vs. one requiring a physical key. (You have to get into the habit of remembering to transfer the license). If you ever run into licensing issues, or something goes amiss on the machine, they can reset the server database so you can reactive the license. If it wasn't for cineform, I'd have dropped Premiere Pro completely and moved on to something else... something more expensive. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

March 6th, 2007, 09:50 AM	#152
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	1. That was answered a few days ago here : http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=87877 -- you will need at least two licenses for three installations. 2. You can easy move the license with a deactivation. 3. Unfortunately third party filters are not accelaratored by Aspect HD. Aspect HD provides the core RT filters for 99% of most production work. Other filters can be used and scrubbed for preview but they need to be render for output. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 7th, 2007, 03:02 PM	#154
Matthew Pugerude Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redmond, Oregon Posts: 173	Aspect HD and Quicktime files Has any captured in final Cut to quicktime and used Premiere to edit with Aspect HD. I have a sitution that I am going to be shooting with the JVC HD100. I can not take the camera back to my edit suite so I was going to have the owner of the camera capture the tapes to a harddrive before I left for home 3 hours away. How should he capture the files? Will this work? I guess the other big question if the guy downloaded the Beta for Mac could I then open the files in premiere given that I am using Aspect and the Mac is going to be Prospect product. I think that is right. Last edited by Matthew Pugerude; March 7th, 2007 at 03:13 PM. Reason: need to add something

March 7th, 2007, 04:11 PM	#155
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	The files generated on the Mac can only open under Prospect HD today. For Aspect HD we will likely offer the MOV to AVI conversion through HDLink. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 7th, 2007, 04:18 PM	#156
Matthew Pugerude Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Redmond, Oregon Posts: 173	One more question So can I use HD link for this now or in the future Nevermind I get it not now but in the future

March 6th, 2007, 10:44 AM	#153
Rafael Lopes Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 1,240	Thanks guys. I'm simply amazed by aspect hd. This software is amazing. As soon as I have some cash to spare I will buy it for sure. The footage simply "flies" on the timeline. It's unbelievable how fast it gets...not only with premiere, but with after effect (which is usually way slower than premiere) everything is so freaking smooth. I love it!

March 7th, 2007, 04:36 PM	#157
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	If you installed QuickTime Alternative (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/...lternative.htm) you might be able to convert Mac created CineForm MOVs to AVI using Aspect HD HDlink. That is untested. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 27th, 2007, 05:20 PM	#158
Jim Gunn Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 151	Is anyone using Aspect HD with Premiere Pro on a P4? Is anyone getting away with using Aspect HD with Premiere Pro on a P4? I know this represents the very lowest minimum system requirements, but I have a 2.6 Ghz Win XP system and was wondering if it would run Aspect HD with Premiere Pro 1.5.1 that I already have on there assuming my hard drives are fast enough 7200 rpm and with a Gig and a quarter of ram.

March 27th, 2007, 05:29 PM	#159
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	I ran Aspect HD with Premiere Pro 2.0 on a 3GHz P4 up until late last year. So yes, it works. I had run with Premiere Pro 1.5.1 prior to that. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 27th, 2007, 05:35 PM	#160
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Same here; I used to run a P4 3.00 with 2GB of RAM. It'll work, but my experience was that even with AspectHD more than a couple of longer tracks started to bog it down. I'm pretty sure a 2.6 will work acceptably if the project doesn't get too complex. But honestly, getting yourself a Core2 system is a relative bargain and will make life in HD-land so much happier, especially if you do complex projects or any After Effects work! __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

March 27th, 2007, 05:37 PM	#161
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	You want to have some fun? Buy a dual or quad core, add 4GB RAM, a 10K rpm system drive and a RAID0 for video, with one more drive for scratch disks. Use Aspect HD and it flies like the wind! __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 28th, 2007, 11:43 PM	#162
Lemeng Zhang New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Fremont California Posts: 7	CineForm Aspect HD VS. Avid Xpress Pro HD Hi everyone, I can't decide which HD software I should buy, CineForm Aspect HD or Avid Xpress Pro HD? I'd been working with Adobe Premium Pro 2.0 for a while, and tryied Cineform for few days ( but I didn't get chance to export to see the final video result ). Any suggestion would be appreciated.

March 29th, 2007, 04:27 AM	#163
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	What is your input source and format?

March 29th, 2007, 10:17 AM	#164
Lemeng Zhang New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Fremont California Posts: 7	Hi Bart, Currently, my footage is Sony FX1 HDV1080i format, in the future I'll probably go for JVC HD200 30P or 50P. Thanks!

March 30th, 2007, 04:45 PM	#165
Michael Barrette Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: calgary, Canada Posts: 48	Aspect does encoding like Procoder? Currently using Premiere Pro 2.0 with new system (fast for a notebook, but still a notebook). I'm having serious trouble with exports, everything else seems to work fine with HDV. If I spring for the Aspect HDV, is this going to help speed up and make my exports work great? Specifically, HDV - Tape and HDV - WM9 HDV or other back up method. Also web video export? Is Aspect the right tool for this, or do I need to get Canopus ProCoder for this? If so, is Aspect really only to help me speed up the HDV in the timeline and be able to work with more layers etc? OR is it that in addition to a better coder? Do aspect users often also purchase ProCoder or does Aspect do most of what Procoder does? Thanks! Michael