Full release version of Aspect HD 3.1 now available. at DVinfo.net

David Newman · May 26th, 2005, 05:29 PM

The beta program went well so we can now annouce the full release of Aspect HD 3.1. There are many new features added between 3.0 and 3.1. Key features are enhanced support for the Sony FX1/Z1's Cineframe modes with optional conversion to 24p during capture (on the fly) and greatly improved capture support for even lower end PCs. There are so many smaller enhancements that I have forgetten most them. Aspect HD 3.1 allows the widest range of PCs to experience real-time of HDV content while maintaining the highest quality.

Download the brand-new Aspect HD 3.1 for trial or upgrade an existing license for free from www.cineform.com. This is recommended for all existing Aspect HD customers.

If you tried Aspect HD in the past (and you are sitting on that fence) please try AHD 3.1 as it renews your 15 day trial period. I hope you will be convinced that this is the best tool for your HDV post-production needs.

Marketing mode off -- and back to engineering.

Jaromir Pesr · May 26th, 2005, 06:37 PM

David,

even I cannot resolve the drop-out artifacts (as written in http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=45057) I continue to perform some tests and I realised that chroma issues (those look like bad interlacing) persist even in 3.1 version of AHD. They are less visible but still there. As I've reinstalled whole system I can now use usempeg workaround (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=43382) and there is a big difference.

Here is a sample of native AHD mpeg handling (UseMpeg=0): http://www.intimate.cz/files/hdv/chroma-01.jpg

And here is a sample of Adobe (Mainconcept) one (UseMpeg=1):
http://www.intimate.cz/files/hdv/chroma-02.jpg

Will there be a fix for it?

David Newman · May 26th, 2005, 07:32 PM

You spoiled my nice new thread. :( Are you our mystery shopper? :)

If you read back to my previous post you will see that I asked you to try capturing with CapDVHS to test your capture issues. As no one else has reported this so you should work with tech support to see what in your system can be causing this. Try capturing to a different drive just in case your have a fragmentation issue. The last person who reported anything like this was trying capture to a USB 1.1 drive (he worked it out -- pretty funny really) -- I know this isn't your issue but it is normally something simple in the end.

The deinterlaced chroma issue is still fixed when I test it here and the chroma looks perfect, so no we can't fix it anymore (www.cineform.com/downloads/chromaperfect.png -- shows panning de-interlaced image with no issue using a stock AHD 3.1 install.) If you post your (short) m2t data I will post it back showing that all is fine. That 'useMpeg' hack is no longer needed for that purpose -- although you are welcome to use it if you wish. The images you show look like an odd version of the conversion. So again please follow up with tech support, or if you must, start a new thread on how to correctly deinterlace video and I will happily reply and help you out. These issues aren't inherent in the new Aspect HD 3.1, so we will just need to work through them to get you running smoothly.

Jaromir Pesr · May 26th, 2005, 07:50 PM

David,
I'm terribly sorry. I've tried a 3.1 full release a moment ago and chroma stuff dissappears. Now I'm trying to capture entire tape to check those drop-outs (It'll take some time). I really do not want to bother you. I still think Aspect HD is great. I'll delete my previous reply if you wish.
Have a nice day

David Newman · May 26th, 2005, 08:01 PM

No let's not delete any posts, let's use is as a lesson for others. :)

We worked very hard to make Aspect HD 3.1 solid, so I will try not be too sensitive about errored posts. :) Note: If you see drops-out there are likely on the tape.

Kyle Edwards · May 27th, 2005, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

If you tried Aspect HD in the past (and you are sitting on that fence) please try AHD 3.1 as it renews your 15 day trial period.

It didn't renew the trial period for my machine. I do not remember which version I previously tried, but it has been a while.

David Newman · May 27th, 2005, 09:34 AM

Sorry about that, it was supposed to extrend the trail period. I'll look into that today.

David Newman · May 27th, 2005, 11:54 AM

Kyle, did you download the beta or the version released yesterday of Aspect HD 3.1? All indications here suggest that the trial licensing was extended in the release version of 3.1.

Kyle Edwards · May 27th, 2005, 05:20 PM

From this link: **** custom link removed **** //moderater change

Like I said before, I'm not sure which version I installed before. It has been uninstalled for a couple months now.

David Newman · May 27th, 2005, 05:47 PM

I removed the direct link as that changes regularly. But you are using the release of Aspect HD 3.1. We will looking why a system may not get an extended trial -- I'll post when I learn more.

David Newman · May 27th, 2005, 06:18 PM

Kyle, will believe the 15-day trial is working as advertised -- we tried upgrading expired PCs here at CineForm without issue. However there maybe problems if you have multiple versions of Premiere installed (or a beta version of Premiere) the new components may not install in the correct location. Uninstall Aspect HD and/or Connect HD, then make sure there are no CineForm components here: ...\Program Files\Adobe\Premiere Pro 1.5\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm (if there are delete them.) Re-install and check that they do appear in this location -- if they are going elsewhere simple move them here (and restart Premiere.) Hope this helps.

Kyle Edwards · May 27th, 2005, 07:57 PM

Ok, that DIR was clear and I'm running Premiere Pro 1.5.1 with no other versions on this machine. Still no go.

I'll try the file on my other machine, but I'm not sure if I ever installed Aspect on there. So testing the trial reset that setup might be pointless.

Since it's working on your side has to be something on this machine. Maybe a file or registry line not being changed or deleted? Either way, I'll try it on my B machine. Thanks for the help.

Steven White · June 4th, 2005, 08:40 PM

Just thought I'd mention that I've been working with the AspectHD 3.1 beta this weekend (4 days left on my trial...) on 3 tapes worth of CF24 material.

Capturing? Painless. I set it up for "Large, Progressive, CF24 pull-down removal", went for a bike ride, and came back to fully converted material, with duplicate m2t files.

Pull-down? Gone. Beautifully done too - because when I worked with After Effects to do this in November, I ended up with wonky duplicate frames and other craziness. No such trouble. It's crisp, clean, progressive and 24p (well, as "24p" as CF24 gets anyway).

Editing? Woot! Frame-accurate 24p HD. How good is that? Really good I say. I tried editing the DV files in 1.5.1 and for whatever reason, PPro didn't handle the 2:3 pull-down... but the Cineform pre-set worked like a charm.

Compositing? For fun, I thought I'd see how well the workflow is between After Effects and Premiere. Get this: copy, paste, done. The result?
http://s94963366.onlinehome.us/Eclipse/teaser.jpg

Everything worked exactly the way they said it would. This is an uncommon experience for me - particularly running with Premiere... so I'm totally blown away. To sum it all up in one word: amazing.

-Steve

Colvin Eccleston · June 6th, 2005, 01:37 AM

I am very impressed with this new version. Even though I am using a low spec pc (2.26 Pentium 4 without HT) I can use HDLink to capture the hdv stream without any artefacts. It is also nice to have it do automatic scene splitting, a feature I have never used in 5 years of editing.

Steven White · June 7th, 2005, 11:45 AM

From the press release on the Cineform site:

Quote:

can create a 24-frame progressive output file while ingesting footage shot in Sony’s CineFrame modes.

"Ingesting" footage? What an interesting choice of words. I love it. Next time, I propose "masticating" or "gnawing on" the footage... As Shannon would say... *smile*

-Steve

May 26th, 2005, 05:29 PM	#1
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Full release version of Aspect HD 3.1 now available. The beta program went well so we can now annouce the full release of Aspect HD 3.1. There are many new features added between 3.0 and 3.1. Key features are enhanced support for the Sony FX1/Z1's Cineframe modes with optional conversion to 24p during capture (on the fly) and greatly improved capture support for even lower end PCs. There are so many smaller enhancements that I have forgetten most them. Aspect HD 3.1 allows the widest range of PCs to experience real-time of HDV content while maintaining the highest quality. Download the brand-new Aspect HD 3.1 for trial or upgrade an existing license for free from www.cineform.com. This is recommended for all existing Aspect HD customers. If you tried Aspect HD in the past (and you are sitting on that fence) please try AHD 3.1 as it renews your 15 day trial period. I hope you will be convinced that this is the best tool for your HDV post-production needs. Marketing mode off -- and back to engineering. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 26th, 2005, 06:37 PM	#2
Jaromir Pesr Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 42	David, even I cannot resolve the drop-out artifacts (as written in http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=45057) I continue to perform some tests and I realised that chroma issues (those look like bad interlacing) persist even in 3.1 version of AHD. They are less visible but still there. As I've reinstalled whole system I can now use usempeg workaround (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=43382) and there is a big difference. Here is a sample of native AHD mpeg handling (UseMpeg=0): http://www.intimate.cz/files/hdv/chroma-01.jpg And here is a sample of Adobe (Mainconcept) one (UseMpeg=1): http://www.intimate.cz/files/hdv/chroma-02.jpg Will there be a fix for it? __________________ Jaromir Pesr i/o post

May 26th, 2005, 07:32 PM	#3
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	You spoiled my nice new thread. :( Are you our mystery shopper? :) If you read back to my previous post you will see that I asked you to try capturing with CapDVHS to test your capture issues. As no one else has reported this so you should work with tech support to see what in your system can be causing this. Try capturing to a different drive just in case your have a fragmentation issue. The last person who reported anything like this was trying capture to a USB 1.1 drive (he worked it out -- pretty funny really) -- I know this isn't your issue but it is normally something simple in the end. The deinterlaced chroma issue is still fixed when I test it here and the chroma looks perfect, so no we can't fix it anymore (www.cineform.com/downloads/chromaperfect.png -- shows panning de-interlaced image with no issue using a stock AHD 3.1 install.) If you post your (short) m2t data I will post it back showing that all is fine. That 'useMpeg' hack is no longer needed for that purpose -- although you are welcome to use it if you wish. The images you show look like an odd version of the conversion. So again please follow up with tech support, or if you must, start a new thread on how to correctly deinterlace video and I will happily reply and help you out. These issues aren't inherent in the new Aspect HD 3.1, so we will just need to work through them to get you running smoothly. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 26th, 2005, 07:50 PM	#4
Jaromir Pesr Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 42	David, I'm terribly sorry. I've tried a 3.1 full release a moment ago and chroma stuff dissappears. Now I'm trying to capture entire tape to check those drop-outs (It'll take some time). I really do not want to bother you. I still think Aspect HD is great. I'll delete my previous reply if you wish. Have a nice day __________________ Jaromir Pesr i/o post

May 26th, 2005, 08:01 PM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	No let's not delete any posts, let's use is as a lesson for others. :) We worked very hard to make Aspect HD 3.1 solid, so I will try not be too sensitive about errored posts. :) Note: If you see drops-out there are likely on the tape. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 27th, 2005, 09:34 AM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Sorry about that, it was supposed to extrend the trail period. I'll look into that today. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 27th, 2005, 11:54 AM	#8
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Kyle, did you download the beta or the version released yesterday of Aspect HD 3.1? All indications here suggest that the trial licensing was extended in the release version of 3.1. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 27th, 2005, 05:20 PM	#9
Kyle Edwards Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 274	From this link: ** custom link removed ** //moderater change Like I said before, I'm not sure which version I installed before. It has been uninstalled for a couple months now.

May 27th, 2005, 05:47 PM	#10
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I removed the direct link as that changes regularly. But you are using the release of Aspect HD 3.1. We will looking why a system may not get an extended trial -- I'll post when I learn more. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 27th, 2005, 06:18 PM	#11
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Kyle, will believe the 15-day trial is working as advertised -- we tried upgrading expired PCs here at CineForm without issue. However there maybe problems if you have multiple versions of Premiere installed (or a beta version of Premiere) the new components may not install in the correct location. Uninstall Aspect HD and/or Connect HD, then make sure there are no CineForm components here: ...\Program Files\Adobe\Premiere Pro 1.5\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm (if there are delete them.) Re-install and check that they do appear in this location -- if they are going elsewhere simple move them here (and restart Premiere.) Hope this helps. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 27th, 2005, 07:57 PM	#12
Kyle Edwards Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 274	Ok, that DIR was clear and I'm running Premiere Pro 1.5.1 with no other versions on this machine. Still no go. I'll try the file on my other machine, but I'm not sure if I ever installed Aspect on there. So testing the trial reset that setup might be pointless. Since it's working on your side has to be something on this machine. Maybe a file or registry line not being changed or deleted? Either way, I'll try it on my B machine. Thanks for the help.

June 4th, 2005, 08:40 PM	#13
Steven White Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 547	Just thought I'd mention that I've been working with the AspectHD 3.1 beta this weekend (4 days left on my trial...) on 3 tapes worth of CF24 material. Capturing? Painless. I set it up for "Large, Progressive, CF24 pull-down removal", went for a bike ride, and came back to fully converted material, with duplicate m2t files. Pull-down? Gone. Beautifully done too - because when I worked with After Effects to do this in November, I ended up with wonky duplicate frames and other craziness. No such trouble. It's crisp, clean, progressive and 24p (well, as "24p" as CF24 gets anyway). Editing? Woot! Frame-accurate 24p HD. How good is that? Really good I say. I tried editing the DV files in 1.5.1 and for whatever reason, PPro didn't handle the 2:3 pull-down... but the Cineform pre-set worked like a charm. Compositing? For fun, I thought I'd see how well the workflow is between After Effects and Premiere. Get this: copy, paste, done. The result? http://s94963366.onlinehome.us/Eclipse/teaser.jpg Everything worked exactly the way they said it would. This is an uncommon experience for me - particularly running with Premiere... so I'm totally blown away. To sum it all up in one word: amazing. -Steve

June 6th, 2005, 01:37 AM	#14
Colvin Eccleston Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 93	I am very impressed with this new version. Even though I am using a low spec pc (2.26 Pentium 4 without HT) I can use HDLink to capture the hdv stream without any artefacts. It is also nice to have it do automatic scene splitting, a feature I have never used in 5 years of editing.