Magic bullet working with HDV footage in Premiere? at DVinfo.net

Greg Jacobson · February 8th, 2005, 04:07 PM

I read a post from a Vegas user who said his Magic Bullet was working great with his HDV footage.

Any reports from the Premiere Pro front?

Mark Kubat · February 9th, 2005, 02:19 AM

Maybe I'm the user who you read about - I used it in Vegas too.

FYI, no difference in terms of which host you use in terms of way MB applies to HDV - results are identical.

Am starting to like PPro better though because of deinterlacing via Mainconcept Mpeg Pro HD (see their site) etc. and without very fast system, PPro seems to "stutter" along in editing more "smoothly"

Greg Jacobson · February 9th, 2005, 04:14 AM

see this review of that plug in

http://bg.videosystems.com/ar/video_mainconcept_mpeg_pro/

Mark Kubat · February 9th, 2005, 04:56 AM

Interesting review - I don't know if anything has been addressed since we obtained the plug in last week (Feb. 2005) and the review was written in Sept. of last year... okay, just checked - latest version is 1.05 so maybe the bugs Steve has addressed are worked out - seems fine to me!

Test out the demo - you get watermark but the templates are nice - the real edge is "decent" frame accurate mpeg editing right in Premiere timeline... Fairly robust, even on my slow editing station...

Graham Hickling · February 9th, 2005, 08:31 PM

From that review of the Mainconcept HD plugin: "If you want to perform an immediate capture, the tape must be playing. Moreover, during capture, you'll see no picture nor hear any sound. "

These issues have definitely been fixed. There is also now no problem exporting to WM9 from the timeline. And some other intermittent capture problems I had with 1.04 (that aren't mentioned in the review) are also now resolved. I find the 1.05 plugin very solid and effective. (I can't comment about the in/out point - batch capture issue that the review mentions as I haven't been using batch capture).

It's a different philosophy from Cineform, however (i.e. native mpeg editing rather than using an intermediate codec) and there are definitely advantages to the Cineform approach.

Brad Bodily · February 11th, 2005, 01:37 AM

When I attempt to use MB on HDV footage (within Premiere Pro) I get a message about the output being over 1024. I installed an update (1.5) and it doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is there some trick to getting it to work on HDV resolution footage? Or is perhaps this just a limitation of the version that came with Video Collection?

Mark Kubat · February 11th, 2005, 11:09 AM

Brad, I think you at least need some plug to support HDV m2t in Prem Pro - Aspect HD is obviously one way to go - I got free upgrade to v.1.05...

good luck - visit www.mainconcept.com for more details... of course, visit cineform too!

Brad Bodily · February 11th, 2005, 10:14 PM

Hmm... maybe I'm crazy, but it seems to work fine now. I did install some Sentinel System Driver thing that came with the MB 1.5 patch since I last tried, but I have no idea what it's supposed to do. Everything seems to be working peachy now - maybe it was a reboot or something.

February 8th, 2005, 04:07 PM	#1
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	Magic bullet working with HDV footage in Premiere? I read a post from a Vegas user who said his Magic Bullet was working great with his HDV footage. Any reports from the Premiere Pro front?

February 9th, 2005, 02:19 AM	#2
Mark Kubat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 375	Magic Bullet Editors works great in Premiere Pro - no probs. Maybe I'm the user who you read about - I used it in Vegas too. FYI, no difference in terms of which host you use in terms of way MB applies to HDV - results are identical. Am starting to like PPro better though because of deinterlacing via Mainconcept Mpeg Pro HD (see their site) etc. and without very fast system, PPro seems to "stutter" along in editing more "smoothly"

February 9th, 2005, 04:56 AM	#4
Mark Kubat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 375	I'm happy so far... Interesting review - I don't know if anything has been addressed since we obtained the plug in last week (Feb. 2005) and the review was written in Sept. of last year... okay, just checked - latest version is 1.05 so maybe the bugs Steve has addressed are worked out - seems fine to me! Test out the demo - you get watermark but the templates are nice - the real edge is "decent" frame accurate mpeg editing right in Premiere timeline... Fairly robust, even on my slow editing station...

February 11th, 2005, 11:09 AM	#7
Mark Kubat Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 375	you need Mainconcept mpeg-pro HD Brad, I think you at least need some plug to support HDV m2t in Prem Pro - Aspect HD is obviously one way to go - I got free upgrade to v.1.05... good luck - visit www.mainconcept.com for more details... of course, visit cineform too!

February 9th, 2005, 04:14 AM	#3
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	see this review of that plug in http://bg.videosystems.com/ar/video_mainconcept_mpeg_pro/

February 9th, 2005, 08:31 PM	#5
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	From that review of the Mainconcept HD plugin: "If you want to perform an immediate capture, the tape must be playing. Moreover, during capture, you'll see no picture nor hear any sound. " These issues have definitely been fixed. There is also now no problem exporting to WM9 from the timeline. And some other intermittent capture problems I had with 1.04 (that aren't mentioned in the review) are also now resolved. I find the 1.05 plugin very solid and effective. (I can't comment about the in/out point - batch capture issue that the review mentions as I haven't been using batch capture). It's a different philosophy from Cineform, however (i.e. native mpeg editing rather than using an intermediate codec) and there are definitely advantages to the Cineform approach.

February 11th, 2005, 01:37 AM	#6
Brad Bodily New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 21	When I attempt to use MB on HDV footage (within Premiere Pro) I get a message about the output being over 1024. I installed an update (1.5) and it doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is there some trick to getting it to work on HDV resolution footage? Or is perhaps this just a limitation of the version that came with Video Collection?

February 11th, 2005, 10:14 PM	#8
Brad Bodily New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 21	Hmm... maybe I'm crazy, but it seems to work fine now. I did install some Sentinel System Driver thing that came with the MB 1.5 patch since I last tried, but I have no idea what it's supposed to do. Everything seems to be working peachy now - maybe it was a reboot or something.