real time engine update?

David Newman · August 5th, 2009, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Vanecek

Where is the 32-bit control in Prospect HD? The Prospect HD manual is still for Aspect 5/Prospect 3. I don't see anything in the Media Exporter dialog that looks relevant.

Thanks,
Matt

In CS3 it is in CineForm's Playback Setting control panel.

Matt Vanecek · August 5th, 2009, 05:46 PM

Should I understand that to mean that the setting is not available in CS4? I don't have CS3...

Thanks,
Matt

Matt Vanecek · August 6th, 2009, 09:13 PM

Quick question: will the RTE be used also for the Multi-Camera recording window?
Thanks,
Matt

David Newman · August 6th, 2009, 09:43 PM

No, wasn't in CS3 either. The multicam feature is not exposed for third party implementation, so you are stuck with the Adobe version.

Matt Vanecek · August 7th, 2009, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

No, wasn't in CS3 either. The multicam feature is not exposed for third party implementation, so you are stuck with the Adobe version.

crap. crapcrapcrap. The 4.1 Multi-Camera recorder is crap. The 4.0.1 Multi-Camera worked great. Others have noticed the difference. I was praying that the RTE would also work with the Multi-camera recorder. crap. that really sucks. @$*!)^% Adobe! and their support is NO help whatsoever! They've had that ticket for 2 months now. :(

Oh, well, I'll find a way to struggle on through....

Thanks,
Matt

Adam Gold · August 7th, 2009, 05:42 PM

Yes, this is very disappointing. It never even occurred to me that this wasn't supported by Cineform, even though I never noticed any improvement with this over using non-Cineform presets in CS3, speed-wise or qualtiy-wise.

Seems like everything that's important to me, isn't for Cineform.

Ray Bell · August 7th, 2009, 05:50 PM

David, This thread brings up a question that I have had for a while now and just have not
asked it...

so here it is... when I turn on display filter stack why do I have to turn it on each time
I start Premiere... shouldn't the setting be a sticky type of selection??

and a second question... what are the rules for Cineform in respect to 8,16,32 bit...

I have the selection selected for 32 bit and I can see the 32bit is being implemented...

but what are the rules that Cineform uses to get the 32bit out..

David Newman · August 7th, 2009, 06:23 PM

Display filter stack should be sticky, I haven't seen it not working -- report if it is not sticking in a new project to support. We do 32-bit float pretty well, such that you can see your HDR work on the timelise, is seems the Premiere edit modes don't work this well, i.e. CS4 doesn't display 32-bit filters correctly in my opinion (they render correctly though) -- we will fix that with our play module.

Marty Hudzik · August 12th, 2009, 07:09 AM

David, You mentioned that your realtime engine can render 5 times faster than adobe feeds the data to it, thus adobe is the bottleneck here. Since I have been playing with CS4 I have noticed that it takes 3-4 times as long as CS3 to render same projects. Is this just a giant "oops" on Adobe's part to release a new version of software and accidentally cripple the rendering component? I actually like working in CS4 but hate the super exaggerated render times....even with non cineform related projects.

Thanks for any input.

August 6th, 2009, 09:43 PM	#19
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	No, wasn't in CS3 either. The multicam feature is not exposed for third party implementation, so you are stuck with the Adobe version. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 7th, 2009, 06:23 PM	#23
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Display filter stack should be sticky, I haven't seen it not working -- report if it is not sticking in a new project to support. We do 32-bit float pretty well, such that you can see your HDR work on the timelise, is seems the Premiere edit modes don't work this well, i.e. CS4 doesn't display 32-bit filters correctly in my opinion (they render correctly though) -- we will fix that with our play module. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 5th, 2009, 05:46 PM	#17
Matt Vanecek Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 334	Should I understand that to mean that the setting is not available in CS4? I don't have CS3... Thanks, Matt

August 6th, 2009, 09:13 PM	#18
Matt Vanecek Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 334	Quick question: will the RTE be used also for the Multi-Camera recording window? Thanks, Matt

August 7th, 2009, 05:42 PM	#21
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Yes, this is very disappointing. It never even occurred to me that this wasn't supported by Cineform, even though I never noticed any improvement with this over using non-Cineform presets in CS3, speed-wise or qualtiy-wise. Seems like everything that's important to me, isn't for Cineform.

August 7th, 2009, 05:50 PM	#22
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	David, This thread brings up a question that I have had for a while now and just have not asked it... so here it is... when I turn on display filter stack why do I have to turn it on each time I start Premiere... shouldn't the setting be a sticky type of selection?? and a second question... what are the rules for Cineform in respect to 8,16,32 bit... I have the selection selected for 32 bit and I can see the 32bit is being implemented... but what are the rules that Cineform uses to get the 32bit out..

August 12th, 2009, 07:09 AM	#24
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	David, You mentioned that your realtime engine can render 5 times faster than adobe feeds the data to it, thus adobe is the bottleneck here. Since I have been playing with CS4 I have noticed that it takes 3-4 times as long as CS3 to render same projects. Is this just a giant "oops" on Adobe's part to release a new version of software and accidentally cripple the rendering component? I actually like working in CS4 but hate the super exaggerated render times....even with non cineform related projects. Thanks for any input.