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Bruce Gruber · June 16th, 2009, 10:08 AM

Can anyone tell me if you can use Prospect HD as a output selection for Proshow producer?

Khoi Pham · June 16th, 2009, 10:58 AM

Normally if you have the codec install in your system it should work, I don't know about Prospect HD, I have Canopus codec installed on my system but it doesn't work with any of them, either I can not open the file or I get some green stuff at the end, there is alot of bugs in this area, can't even render out a uncompressed AVI, Cinepak Codec or anything, the only thing I can render out is HD program stream, or if you make direct dvd or blu-ray.

Graham Hickling · June 16th, 2009, 08:33 PM

You can select the Cineform codec for avi output. BUT (!!!) the max output filesize appears to be limited to 2GB. I suppose it's easy enough to output <2GB segments and join them later, but it's annoying to have to do that.

Simon Zimmer · June 17th, 2009, 06:58 AM

Hi Bruce

I looked at Proshow producer this morning. Looks pretty cool.

Do you own it Bruce?

Which version?

Simon

Bruce Gruber · June 18th, 2009, 10:18 AM

Graham,

I think you are correct... I make a small project and it play with media player if I go over 2g it will not play it creats the file but it will not play??? What is I output to uncompressd avi then run it thru hdlink? What do you think the quality would be?

Simon Zimmer · June 18th, 2009, 10:22 AM

Hey Bruce,

I have done an avi uncompressed before with Google video. The quality is excellent if using HDLink.

This creates and extra step but worth it once it is a cineform .avi.

Do you own the style packs? I am very tempted to buy the Proshow Producer. Quite impressive.

Simon

Graham Hickling · June 19th, 2009, 12:18 AM

Bruce I think the 2GB limit is inherent to the way Proshow outputs avis, regardless of what codec (or uncompressed) is being used.

You might try exporting to mov instead ... could be a way around the problem???

Bruce Gruber · June 20th, 2009, 03:21 AM

Graham,
You might be right but I have output uncompressed before over 20g and it worked? I will check with PProducer to see if they have a limit.

Bruce Gruber · June 23rd, 2009, 10:11 AM

Ok If I output 2G or less the file is fine... If it is over 2G like 20G it fully creats the file but it is un readable by any program including CF. I asked Proshow Producer people and they said they do not have a limit.

Does anyone have anoy Ideas?? The slide shows look awsome using CF. I do not want to make 50 2G avi to complete a slide show.

Graham Hickling · June 23rd, 2009, 10:22 AM

Bruce, try exporting to a Cineform mov wrapper, rather than a Cineform avi.

Some kinds of avi (Type 1, I think?) inherently have a 2GB limit - and I suspect that's the type PProducer exports to. (If so its misleading of them to say they have no limit). In any case, movs have no such limit.

Bruce Gruber · June 23rd, 2009, 05:12 PM

Hi Grahm,

I tried that and Proshow Producer crashes right away and closes..

Khoi Pham · June 26th, 2009, 09:40 AM

You guys need to let them know about this rendering problem, the more people complaint about it the more they might look into it, seems like I'm the only one that contact them so far about his rendering problem.

Bruce Gruber · June 27th, 2009, 03:13 AM

Hi Khoi,

I am on it I have been talking with them all week. I even had them download the trial. They say they got a 9g file to render??

Graham Hickling · August 9th, 2009, 08:31 PM

Interesting ... I have ProShow Producer 3 installed on a Windows XP 64-bit machine and I just rendered a large (over 5GB) Cineform avi without running into problems.

This is the same version of ProShow that previously refused to render avis that large on several Windows XP 32-bit systems ... so either the 64-bit OS, or the newer version of the Cineform VFW codec (I'm presently on 5.1.4), seems to have fixed the problem! Yay!

Bruce Gruber · August 10th, 2009, 03:13 AM

Hi Graham,

Very Interesting I am running PPP 4 What version of CF are you on now? Are you using Prospect HD.

Thanks Bruce

June 16th, 2009, 10:08 AM	#1
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Proshow Producer Can anyone tell me if you can use Prospect HD as a output selection for Proshow producer?

June 16th, 2009, 10:58 AM	#2
Khoi Pham Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 747	Normally if you have the codec install in your system it should work, I don't know about Prospect HD, I have Canopus codec installed on my system but it doesn't work with any of them, either I can not open the file or I get some green stuff at the end, there is alot of bugs in this area, can't even render out a uncompressed AVI, Cinepak Codec or anything, the only thing I can render out is HD program stream, or if you make direct dvd or blu-ray. __________________ Khoi Pham www.proeditproductions.com

June 18th, 2009, 10:18 AM	#5
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Dave any suggestion? Graham, I think you are correct... I make a small project and it play with media player if I go over 2g it will not play it creats the file but it will not play??? What is I output to uncompressd avi then run it thru hdlink? What do you think the quality would be?

June 23rd, 2009, 10:11 AM	#9
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Any Ides? Ok If I output 2G or less the file is fine... If it is over 2G like 20G it fully creats the file but it is un readable by any program including CF. I asked Proshow Producer people and they said they do not have a limit. Does anyone have anoy Ideas?? The slide shows look awsome using CF. I do not want to make 50 2G avi to complete a slide show.

June 26th, 2009, 09:40 AM	#12
Khoi Pham Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 747	You guys need to let them know about this rendering problem, the more people complaint about it the more they might look into it, seems like I'm the only one that contact them so far about his rendering problem. __________________ Khoi Pham www.proeditproductions.com

June 16th, 2009, 08:33 PM	#3
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	You can select the Cineform codec for avi output. BUT (!!!) the max output filesize appears to be limited to 2GB. I suppose it's easy enough to output <2GB segments and join them later, but it's annoying to have to do that.

June 17th, 2009, 06:58 AM	#4
Simon Zimmer Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Easton, Maryland Posts: 497	Hi Bruce I looked at Proshow producer this morning. Looks pretty cool. Do you own it Bruce? Which version? Simon

June 18th, 2009, 10:22 AM	#6
Simon Zimmer Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Easton, Maryland Posts: 497	Hey Bruce, I have done an avi uncompressed before with Google video. The quality is excellent if using HDLink. This creates and extra step but worth it once it is a cineform .avi. Do you own the style packs? I am very tempted to buy the Proshow Producer. Quite impressive. Simon

June 19th, 2009, 12:18 AM	#7
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Bruce I think the 2GB limit is inherent to the way Proshow outputs avis, regardless of what codec (or uncompressed) is being used. You might try exporting to mov instead ... could be a way around the problem???

June 20th, 2009, 03:21 AM	#8
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Graham, You might be right but I have output uncompressed before over 20g and it worked? I will check with PProducer to see if they have a limit.

June 23rd, 2009, 10:22 AM	#10
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Bruce, try exporting to a Cineform mov wrapper, rather than a Cineform avi. Some kinds of avi (Type 1, I think?) inherently have a 2GB limit - and I suspect that's the type PProducer exports to. (If so its misleading of them to say they have no limit). In any case, movs have no such limit.

June 23rd, 2009, 05:12 PM	#11
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Hi Grahm, I tried that and Proshow Producer crashes right away and closes..

June 27th, 2009, 03:13 AM	#13
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Hi Khoi, I am on it I have been talking with them all week. I even had them download the trial. They say they got a 9g file to render??

August 9th, 2009, 08:31 PM	#14
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Interesting ... I have ProShow Producer 3 installed on a Windows XP 64-bit machine and I just rendered a large (over 5GB) Cineform avi without running into problems. This is the same version of ProShow that previously refused to render avis that large on several Windows XP 32-bit systems ... so either the 64-bit OS, or the newer version of the Cineform VFW codec (I'm presently on 5.1.4), seems to have fixed the problem! Yay!

August 10th, 2009, 03:13 AM	#15
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Hi Graham, Very Interesting I am running PPP 4 What version of CF are you on now? Are you using Prospect HD. Thanks Bruce