NeoScene in CS3, what project settings? HDV & 5Dmk2

[Scott Gold]

I'm using CS3 to edit both XH-A1 HDV and 5Dmk2 on the same timeline.
I've captured both with Neoscene with "Maintain Source Format" checked.
I'm assuming I should now have 29.97fps footage for both the XH-A1 and 5Dmk2????

What project settings should I be editing with in CS3???

[David Newman]

If you HDV source was 30p, then use a 1920x1080p30 timeline in desktop mode. Otherwise use a 60i 1920x1080 desktop mode timeline.

[Scott Gold]

Cool, thanks for the response David. So, whenever I start a new project and I'm planning on using NeoScene Cineform footage....I should always use Desktop mode?
Thanks for your help.

[David Newman]

Desktop mode is a good choice, as it has no predefined limitations of some of the other modes.

[Mark Hahn]

Originally Posted by Scott Gold

I'm using CS3 to edit both XH-A1 HDV and 5Dmk2 on the same timeline.
I've captured both with Neoscene with "Maintain Source Format" checked.
I'm assuming I should now have 29.97fps footage for both the XH-A1 and 5Dmk2????

What project settings should I be editing with in CS3???

With the 5D2, NeoScene will only output real 29.97 fps, even though the original source is real 30fps, and you have "Maintain Source Format" checked. I confirmed this with neoscene support. You must use a premiere project of 29.97 fps to get things to time out right.

When I complained to them they told me to buy their much more expensive product. Apparently they consider having the UI say "Maintain Source Format" OK even though it is a lie.

[Gary Greenwald]

if 30fps is the true canon file, and neoscene changes the output to 29.97 even if you dont want the change, it is rather peculiar to have to buy a more expensive program to 'not' have neoscene change your original format, and you only bought neoscene for transcoding for easier video handling in pp with a canon 5dmkII.
seems like neoscene would keep you at 30fps, and you have to pay more for changing it to 29.97, not the other way around.
i use a canon 5dmkII 30fps with two flip HD cameras of 30fps, i have no intentions of going beyond internet and computer viewing, so staying with my original canon format would help me out, i didnt buy neoscene for framerate conversion i only bought it for easier use within PP. unless im missing something here about 29.97 being a absolute benefit for me.
i wonder when the 5dmkII gets 24fps if we will be allowed to keep 24fps or itll force it to 23.97 unless one upgrades and pays more just to keep their original format...

[David Newman]

They are good reason to do what do for a consumer level product. It is called reduction in support load. 95% of users need 29.97. If you want 30fps, just interpret the footage as 30.0, we just prefer to tell that to 1 in 20, rather than saying interpret to 29.97 for 19 out of 20 users. If you use 30p in 29.97 timelines, you get quality issues and CineForm doesn't like that.