Various new PC and Mac builds at DVinfo.net

David Newman · May 29th, 2009, 05:25 PM

These products where updated today:

PC: Neo HD, Neo 4K, Prospect HD, Prospect 4K.
Mac: Neo HD, Neo 4K, Neo Scene (for improved Lumix GH1 support.)

New releases of Mac Neo 3D and PC Neo Scene (done 1.3 is out) are just arround the corner.

Easier read up on the product changes over at techblog.cineform.com
Cineform Tech Blog Blog Archive CineForm Product Updates

Many bug fixes, and a tweaks for Lumix GH1 support (likely going to be a popular camera.)

David

David Newman · May 29th, 2009, 05:31 PM

P.S. Prospect HD and 4K users: We've noticed that the older uninstall was leaving some components behind, so make sure you have the latest stuff by:

1) Uninstall old PHD/P4K
2) Mainly delete these files or folders if they remain
for CS3
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Settings\en_US\CineForm
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS3\MediaCore\im-*.prm
or C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Settings\en_US\CineForm
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS3\MediaCore\im-*.prm

for CS4
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS4\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS4\Settings\en_US\CineForm
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS4\MediaCore\CFHD*.prm
or C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS4\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS4\Settings\en_US\CineForm
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS4\MediaCore\CFHD*.prm

3) Install 4.0.3.212

The uninstaller bug was fixed in 4.0.3.212, so the problem should not presist it future builds.

Robert Young · May 29th, 2009, 06:17 PM

David,
Is this now the complete version of PHD 4 for Premiere CS4?

James Park · May 29th, 2009, 06:25 PM

Dave,

One thing I noticed about First Light with this build on the PHD release was the "Look 3D LUT" presets doesnt reset. When I pull down the preset menu i.e. to Kodak then switch back "None", the color doesnt change back to normal. The reset or restore buttons doesnt work either. Can anyone else confirm this with their installs?

James

David Newman · May 29th, 2009, 06:35 PM

Robert, no we will make a big todo when that is done -- the link above list the changes. We've had to deal with the mess that was CS 4.0, now that 4.1 is out we can a better chance that we can finish the playback engine integration quickly.

David Newman · May 29th, 2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Park

Dave,

One thing I noticed about First Light with this build on the PHD release was the "Look 3D LUT" presets doesnt reset. When I pull down the preset menu i.e. to Kodak then switch back "None", the color doesnt change back to normal. The reset or restore buttons doesnt work either. Can anyone else confirm this with their installs?

James

That was the last build, the current release fixes that (unless you still have older components install.) Uninstall, the search for CFHD*.*, delete the results, reinstall.

David Newman · May 29th, 2009, 07:56 PM

Always a last minute change. After we loaded these builds, Tim found out why Paste in First Light didn't always do what you expect. So I've refresh the download links to have this minor change. First Light is becoming the powerful yet fun app. it was intended to be.

Glenn Babcock · May 29th, 2009, 08:58 PM

David,

Does it fix the issue where it doesn't paste Green in the color matrix?

If not, reproduce by setting Green to an extreme level, then paste settings from another clip.

Glenn

David Newman · May 29th, 2009, 09:12 PM

Glenn, paste wasn't concerned by a particular color, but there where a few reason the paste was taking, all we believe are fixed now.

Glenn Babcock · May 29th, 2009, 09:21 PM

David,

I downloaded again to make sure I have the latest, and I can reproduce this at will. Take two clips, adjust #1 to where Green Gain <> 1.0, copy from #1 and paste to #2, green goes to 1.0.

Glenn

David Newman · May 29th, 2009, 09:28 PM

Ahh.. We didn't see that one. Please submit a ticket so we try for a minor fix early next week.

James Park · May 29th, 2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

That was the last build, the current release fixes that (unless you still have older components install.) Uninstall, the search for CFHD*.*, delete the results, reinstall.

hmm.. so I tried that. And still same results. Did a rigorous search for any CFHD*.* files but didnt find any. Looked in adobe install directory (installed to default directories) and none of the files you mention are there after uninstall. Still, after reinstalling, I cant reset or restore any LUT back to original by either selecting "None" or by hitting "Reset" / "Restore" buttons. Colors do restore by selecting "one2one".

I dont recall this happening in the last build so I uninstalled and re-installed Prospect HD v4 b.211 again. I dont have issues there. Seems to onlybe with the new build. No big deal as of right now since I'm not using this feature in any current projects. Anyways, I will submit support ticket to see if its a bug in this release of ProspectHD or if its simply on my end.

David Newman · May 30th, 2009, 09:50 AM

James, the component that need upgrading would be in C:windows or c:program files. It woorth a try as the fault you describe was fixed.

James Park · May 30th, 2009, 01:26 PM

i guess I'll have to wait on support. I think I've tried everything. When I uninstall, I cant seem to find any trace of CFHD*.* installed anywhere. Looked in Windows, syswow64, system32 and adobe program folders, but nothing there. Whatever the reason, when I reinstall Cineform back I still have same problem.

James Park · May 31st, 2009, 12:26 AM

Dave, just for the heck of it I uninstalled Prospect HD (b212) and installed trial for Prospect 4K (b212). Interestingly, the "reset" and "restore" buttons in First Light under the LUT section work with the latest build of Prospect 4K. When I switch back by installing Prospect HD, it doesnt work. I cant remove the color presets back to normal. I also tried the latest build of NEO HD and it seems to have the same problem. I'll update the support ticket I already submitted but it seems as if its only broken with the "HD" version of the software.

Can anyone else who's got Prospect HD or Neo HD confirm this?
Bring a Cineform clip into First Light, change the color scheme under LOOK (3D LUT) section by choosing one of the included presets (Kodak or BleachBypass).
Then try restoring it back to original color by hitting reset or restore buttons, does it work?

May 29th, 2009, 06:17 PM	#3
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	David, Is this now the complete version of PHD 4 for Premiere CS4? __________________ Bob

May 29th, 2009, 06:35 PM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Robert, no we will make a big todo when that is done -- the link above list the changes. We've had to deal with the mess that was CS 4.0, now that 4.1 is out we can a better chance that we can finish the playback engine integration quickly. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 29th, 2009, 07:56 PM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Always a last minute change. After we loaded these builds, Tim found out why Paste in First Light didn't always do what you expect. So I've refresh the download links to have this minor change. First Light is becoming the powerful yet fun app. it was intended to be. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 29th, 2009, 09:12 PM	#9
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Glenn, paste wasn't concerned by a particular color, but there where a few reason the paste was taking, all we believe are fixed now. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 29th, 2009, 09:28 PM	#11
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Ahh.. We didn't see that one. Please submit a ticket so we try for a minor fix early next week. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 29th, 2009, 05:25 PM	#1
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Various new PC and Mac builds These products where updated today: PC: Neo HD, Neo 4K, Prospect HD, Prospect 4K. Mac: Neo HD, Neo 4K, Neo Scene (for improved Lumix GH1 support.) New releases of Mac Neo 3D and PC Neo Scene (done 1.3 is out) are just arround the corner. Easier read up on the product changes over at techblog.cineform.com Cineform Tech Blog Blog Archive CineForm Product Updates Many bug fixes, and a tweaks for Lumix GH1 support (likely going to be a popular camera.) David __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman Last edited by David Newman; May 29th, 2009 at 06:32 PM.

May 29th, 2009, 05:31 PM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	P.S. Prospect HD and 4K users: We've noticed that the older uninstall was leaving some components behind, so make sure you have the latest stuff by: 1) Uninstall old PHD/P4K 2) Mainly delete these files or folders if they remain for CS3 C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Settings\en_US\CineForm C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS3\MediaCore\im-.prm or C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\Settings\en_US\CineForm C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS3\MediaCore\im-.prm for CS4 C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS4\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS4\Settings\en_US\CineForm C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS4\MediaCore\CFHD.prm or C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS4\Plug-ins\en_US\CineForm C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS4\Settings\en_US\CineForm C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS4\MediaCore\CFHD.prm 3) Install 4.0.3.212 The uninstaller bug was fixed in 4.0.3.212, so the problem should not presist it future builds. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 29th, 2009, 06:25 PM	#4
James Park Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon Posts: 58	Dave, One thing I noticed about First Light with this build on the PHD release was the "Look 3D LUT" presets doesnt reset. When I pull down the preset menu i.e. to Kodak then switch back "None", the color doesnt change back to normal. The reset or restore buttons doesnt work either. Can anyone else confirm this with their installs? James

May 29th, 2009, 08:58 PM	#8
Glenn Babcock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 64	David, Does it fix the issue where it doesn't paste Green in the color matrix? If not, reproduce by setting Green to an extreme level, then paste settings from another clip. Glenn

May 29th, 2009, 09:21 PM	#10
Glenn Babcock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 64	David, I downloaded again to make sure I have the latest, and I can reproduce this at will. Take two clips, adjust #1 to where Green Gain <> 1.0, copy from #1 and paste to #2, green goes to 1.0. Glenn

May 30th, 2009, 09:50 AM	#13
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	James, the component that need upgrading would be in C:windows or c:program files. It woorth a try as the fault you describe was fixed. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

May 30th, 2009, 01:26 PM	#14
James Park Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon Posts: 58	i guess I'll have to wait on support. I think I've tried everything. When I uninstall, I cant seem to find any trace of CFHD. installed anywhere. Looked in Windows, syswow64, system32 and adobe program folders, but nothing there. Whatever the reason, when I reinstall Cineform back I still have same problem.

May 31st, 2009, 12:26 AM	#15
James Park Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Hillsboro, Oregon Posts: 58	Dave, just for the heck of it I uninstalled Prospect HD (b212) and installed trial for Prospect 4K (b212). Interestingly, the "reset" and "restore" buttons in First Light under the LUT section work with the latest build of Prospect 4K. When I switch back by installing Prospect HD, it doesnt work. I cant remove the color presets back to normal. I also tried the latest build of NEO HD and it seems to have the same problem. I'll update the support ticket I already submitted but it seems as if its only broken with the "HD" version of the software. Can anyone else who's got Prospect HD or Neo HD confirm this? Bring a Cineform clip into First Light, change the color scheme under LOOK (3D LUT) section by choosing one of the included presets (Kodak or BleachBypass). Then try restoring it back to original color by hitting reset or restore buttons, does it work?