One last 4.0 beta.

Marty Hudzik · May 4th, 2009, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

Marty, we did call that a beta. So please wait for a release for fewer support issues if you are working on time critical projects, or would rather not have the headache of beta testing. As for CFHD_AVI_Importer.prm into in CS3 it should not there, that is like a registry mess up on you PC, as it is not install in CS3 in the last two betas. Just delete it, as it is CS4 component.

Thanks David. I expected it to be a beta for CS4 but I thought you had said the CS3 components were as stable as always and had not been touched. If removing that file fixes my CS3 issues I am happy as it is otherwise stable. I can deal with the IT issues while I putz around in CS4 until all the kinks get ironed out.

Thanks.
Marty

David Newman · May 4th, 2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

Here are the new builds that fix the missing LUTs and a few other minor tweaks, like CineForm MOV files now work in First Light, and more playback thread for 8+ core PC for Premiere CS4 (performance is still no much for the accelerator, but it does help.)

NEO HD http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downlo...208-090504.zip
NEO 4K http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downlo...208-090504.zip
Prospect HD http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downlo...208-090504.zip
Prospect 4K http://02bb6aa.netsolhost.com/downlo...208-090504.zip

Just pushing these new links onto the next page.

Craig Irving · May 4th, 2009, 10:42 PM

That's weird. I installed the new build and First Light now launches. Coincidence?

Although the media files I try to import are all invalid and/or corrupt, unfortunately.
Seems like we're getting closer anyway.

Gary Brun · May 4th, 2009, 11:29 PM

HI David.
First light now launches with the new beta and can play a cinform clip on my vista system.
The app crashes when you try to add a preset.

Also my firewire connection is no longer visible for the camera in HDlink.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: FLPlayer.EXE
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 49ff959e
Fault Module Name: FLPlayer.EXE
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 49ff959e
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0000e6e1
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1044
Additional Information 1: c330
Additional Information 2: 3eb41395559d8ebaf96ac7ce156c1efe
Additional Information 3: 05cc
Additional Information 4: 5de3820544b8dc6d069aad3b8900605e

Sorin Pricop · May 5th, 2009, 04:20 AM

I have installed the new Update and now i have this problem:

System HP
OS: XPSP3 - latest updates
RAM: 3GB
Proc: Q6600 (Quad 2.4GHz)
----------------------------
File: Captured with HDLink - XXX1.avi (34GB)
Works fine in PProCS3 - and CS4 _plays fine with WMP

Imported into First Light (same file) - i have received an error:
Invalid File
The file "XXX" is not a valid cineform file or is corrupted
Pressed OK - The file will stay in BIN though - when trying to reimport it FL says: This file is allready in your project.
Anyway - after that - i have opened the PProCS3 project and the files were black. Only sound.
The CS4 opens the project fine and playes the files ok.

Uninstalled the Prospect HD - reinstall - and now everytime i try to import the file CS3 crashes - saying:
Sorry a serious error has occured - .... and exits.

I have 2 PC's and on both of them - after opening the file with First Light and getting that error - the file wasn't recognized by CS3 anymore.

I`m i doing something wrong ?

PS
CS4 is working just fine ...

Cameron Smeal · May 5th, 2009, 04:40 AM

David,

Happy to report that the new beta seems to have fixed the choppy playback in CS4. Incredible difference.

FirstLight however, crashes on creation of new database.

Cheers, Cam

Tim Bickford · May 5th, 2009, 04:58 AM

Installed the latest beta. First Light runs. However, there is no video in the playback monitor on playback.

If it helps... here is my system info.

Vista 64 Ultimate
Intel I7 CPU 2.67 GHz
12 Gig Ram

Bruce Gruber · May 5th, 2009, 05:09 AM

Dave I had the following resaults

> First Light opens now but when importing CF file FLV player crashes.

Next exported short clip 3min from timeline to Media Cineform .avi setting 720x480 wide lower third. high quality. No crashes!!!!!!!!!!!

>I also rendered it in the time line it did stop and start about 5 times but did not crash.

>Imported into Encore and went to transcode and encor encoding failed???

Question in the media encoder where you set the resoultion if you type 720 with the lock on it wants to set the second size to 540? So I unlock the aspect lock and set 720x480 do I re lock or let it as it is.

I am testing a full export about 45min of clips now. Its going to take 5 hours it tell me so I will check on it later. vista/64 quad core

Bruce Gruber · May 5th, 2009, 05:12 AM

Has anyone been able to export to CF.avi compress to 720x480 and get it to import into Encore and transcode? CS4
Thanks

Cameron Smeal · May 5th, 2009, 06:08 AM

David,

Spoke too soon. Playback fine but now receiving "ImporterProcessServer" has stopped working. This application hang occurs during preview/import of CF .avi's. This has only occured since the new beta. Maybe you can shed some light?

Windows Problem signature if it helps is:

Product
Adobe Premiere Pro CS4

Problem
Stopped responding and was closed

Date
5/05/2009 9:53 PM

Status
Report Sent

Description
A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: AppHangB1
Application Name: Adobe Premiere Pro.exe
Application Version: 4.0.1.0
Application Timestamp: 49189711
Hang Signature: 3025
Hang Type: 0
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 3081
Additional Hang Signature 1: bdd14da49edfe7adaa4e800c7dc0eea0
Additional Hang Signature 2: 9b5d
Additional Hang Signature 3: abbf7f3dd41abd851ccfec709ccf4a30
Additional Hang Signature 4: 3025
Additional Hang Signature 5: bdd14da49edfe7adaa4e800c7dc0eea0
Additional Hang Signature 6: 9b5d
Additional Hang Signature 7: abbf7f3dd41abd851ccfec709ccf4a30

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 559669503

Glenn Babcock · May 5th, 2009, 06:51 AM

FYI, the latest beta works well for me, including Firstlight, until I try to encode. I consistently get crashes with the following:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: ImporterProcessServer.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 491896d7
Fault Module Name: CFHDDecoder.dll
Fault Module Version: 2.5.0.30
Fault Module Timestamp: 49ffb07d
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0000d7bc
OS Version: 6.1.7100.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

CS4 on Windows 7
Dell XPS420 quadcore w 8GB RAM

Regards,
Glenn

Bruce Gruber · May 5th, 2009, 07:13 AM

Hi Glen when you go to export to what format

David Dwyer · May 5th, 2009, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

Just pushing these new links onto the next page.

Cheers David - Is there any versions that has the presets for PP CS4? I'm keen to see if thats my problem with jerky video? With a older PC and Aspect HD it was fine with editing HD videos and that was with PP 1.5

Moved to CS4 and its dog slow and jerky with the same source video.

Glenn Babcock · May 5th, 2009, 07:57 AM

Bruce, I tried Cineform AVI and also the Adobe MPEG Blu-Ray presets. Same results either way, it started then Import Process Server crashed.

Marty Hudzik · May 5th, 2009, 08:19 AM

Leaving Cineform out of the equation, it important to know that Adobe is famous for each version getting slower at the same things the previous version did easily. So when I moved from 1.5 to 2.0 I noticed a performance hit doing the same exact things. CS3 was an even bigger dog than PPRO2 and CS4 has outdone all of them.

Seriously, unlike Vegas (which I don't regularly use but I admit seems to get faster and faster with each version) Adobe seems to show little to no interest in optimizing their code for performance. They seem to only focus on new features with each version, the price of using it with any kind of responsiveness equal to the previous version is a serious hardware upgrade. I have to come to terms that simple HDV projects are going to take much longer to render in CS4 than CS3, even when I am not using any new feature or filters. Same simple HD clips in timeline with same exact effects take sooo much longer in CS4 and playback is not nearly as responsive.....yet.

I love Adobe products but if I have a project that does not require features of the newer versions, I can edit them so much faster in older versions.

In short, (too late...I know) I don't know that it is realistic to expect the same performance from CS4 that you see from PPRO 1.5 on the same hardware. Maybe Cineform will neutralize this a little....but PPRO CS4 requires much more processing in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Dwyer

Cheers David - Is there any versions that has the presets for PP CS4? I'm keen to see if thats my problem with jerky video? With an older PC and Aspect HD it was fine with editing HD videos and that was with PP 1.5

Moved to CS4 and its dog slow and jerky with the same source video.

May 4th, 2009, 11:29 PM	#94
Gary Brun Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kråkstad Norway. Posts: 229	HI David. First light now launches with the new beta and can play a cinform clip on my vista system. The app crashes when you try to add a preset. Also my firewire connection is no longer visible for the camera in HDlink. Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: FLPlayer.EXE Application Version: 0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp: 49ff959e Fault Module Name: FLPlayer.EXE Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 49ff959e Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 0000e6e1 OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1 Locale ID: 1044 Additional Information 1: c330 Additional Information 2: 3eb41395559d8ebaf96ac7ce156c1efe Additional Information 3: 05cc Additional Information 4: 5de3820544b8dc6d069aad3b8900605e __________________ http://www.mlotv.com

May 5th, 2009, 04:20 AM	#95
Sorin Pricop Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Miercurea Ciuc (Harghita) Posts: 25	I have installed the new Update and now i have this problem: System HP OS: XPSP3 - latest updates RAM: 3GB Proc: Q6600 (Quad 2.4GHz) ---------------------------- File: Captured with HDLink - XXX1.avi (34GB) Works fine in PProCS3 - and CS4 _plays fine with WMP Imported into First Light (same file) - i have received an error: Invalid File The file "XXX" is not a valid cineform file or is corrupted Pressed OK - The file will stay in BIN though - when trying to reimport it FL says: This file is allready in your project. Anyway - after that - i have opened the PProCS3 project and the files were black. Only sound. The CS4 opens the project fine and playes the files ok. Uninstalled the Prospect HD - reinstall - and now everytime i try to import the file CS3 crashes - saying: Sorry a serious error has occured - .... and exits. I have 2 PC's and on both of them - after opening the file with First Light and getting that error - the file wasn't recognized by CS3 anymore. I`m i doing something wrong ? PS CS4 is working just fine ... Last edited by Sorin Pricop; May 5th, 2009 at 04:21 AM. Reason: i`ve forgot to mention ...

May 5th, 2009, 04:58 AM	#97
Tim Bickford Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 448	Installed the latest beta. First Light runs. However, there is no video in the playback monitor on playback. If it helps... here is my system info. Vista 64 Ultimate Intel I7 CPU 2.67 GHz 12 Gig Ram __________________ Tim Bickford

May 5th, 2009, 05:09 AM	#98
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	New beta downloaded from page 7 Dave I had the following resaults > First Light opens now but when importing CF file FLV player crashes. Next exported short clip 3min from timeline to Media Cineform .avi setting 720x480 wide lower third. high quality. No crashes!!!!!!!!!!! >I also rendered it in the time line it did stop and start about 5 times but did not crash. >Imported into Encore and went to transcode and encor encoding failed??? Question in the media encoder where you set the resoultion if you type 720 with the lock on it wants to set the second size to 540? So I unlock the aspect lock and set 720x480 do I re lock or let it as it is. I am testing a full export about 45min of clips now. Its going to take 5 hours it tell me so I will check on it later. vista/64 quad core

May 4th, 2009, 10:42 PM	#93
Craig Irving Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 539	That's weird. I installed the new build and First Light now launches. Coincidence? Although the media files I try to import are all invalid and/or corrupt, unfortunately. Seems like we're getting closer anyway.

May 5th, 2009, 04:40 AM	#96
Cameron Smeal New Boot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 23	David, Happy to report that the new beta seems to have fixed the choppy playback in CS4. Incredible difference. FirstLight however, crashes on creation of new database. Cheers, Cam

May 5th, 2009, 05:12 AM	#99
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Has anyone been able to export to CF.avi compress to 720x480 and get it to import into Encore and transcode? CS4 Thanks

May 5th, 2009, 06:08 AM	#100
Cameron Smeal New Boot Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 23	David, Spoke too soon. Playback fine but now receiving "ImporterProcessServer" has stopped working. This application hang occurs during preview/import of CF .avi's. This has only occured since the new beta. Maybe you can shed some light? Windows Problem signature if it helps is: Product Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 Problem Stopped responding and was closed Date 5/05/2009 9:53 PM Status Report Sent Description A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows. Problem signature Problem Event Name: AppHangB1 Application Name: Adobe Premiere Pro.exe Application Version: 4.0.1.0 Application Timestamp: 49189711 Hang Signature: 3025 Hang Type: 0 OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3 Locale ID: 3081 Additional Hang Signature 1: bdd14da49edfe7adaa4e800c7dc0eea0 Additional Hang Signature 2: 9b5d Additional Hang Signature 3: abbf7f3dd41abd851ccfec709ccf4a30 Additional Hang Signature 4: 3025 Additional Hang Signature 5: bdd14da49edfe7adaa4e800c7dc0eea0 Additional Hang Signature 6: 9b5d Additional Hang Signature 7: abbf7f3dd41abd851ccfec709ccf4a30 Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: 559669503

May 5th, 2009, 06:51 AM	#101
Glenn Babcock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 64	FYI, the latest beta works well for me, including Firstlight, until I try to encode. I consistently get crashes with the following: Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: ImporterProcessServer.exe Application Version: 0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp: 491896d7 Fault Module Name: CFHDDecoder.dll Fault Module Version: 2.5.0.30 Fault Module Timestamp: 49ffb07d Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 0000d7bc OS Version: 6.1.7100.2.0.0.256.1 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 0a9e Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3: 0a9e Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 CS4 on Windows 7 Dell XPS420 quadcore w 8GB RAM Regards, Glenn

May 5th, 2009, 07:13 AM	#102
Bruce Gruber Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 221	Hi Glen when you go to export to what format

May 5th, 2009, 07:57 AM	#104
Glenn Babcock Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 64	Bruce, I tried Cineform AVI and also the Adobe MPEG Blu-Ray presets. Same results either way, it started then Import Process Server crashed.