Problem converting HMC AVCHD with HDLINK at DVinfo.net

Steve Montoto · March 27th, 2009, 08:07 PM

I am trying to convert some AVCHD files with HDLINK and I am having no luck, It says converting but it doesn't do anything else, It just stays at converting.

I tried it on my laptop and same thing.

Vista 64 on both computers
AVCore installed
Mediasplitter installed
ffdshow installed

I can play the raw avchd files in windows media player with sound also.

any help would be appreciated.

David Newman · March 27th, 2009, 08:12 PM

Some machine just don't work (ffdshow is normally not a good idea), so using Core AVC and other tools will still clash with third party tools (like Nero 5,6,7.) We solved this is Neo Scene and that tech will be in NEO HD/4K and Prospect HD/4K in version 4, out is a few weeks.

Steve Montoto · March 27th, 2009, 08:29 PM

David,

ffdshow came with sorenson squeeze. I do have prospect with CS3 currently running, do you think I should uninstall the ffdshow? I can convert HDV files fine its just the AVCHD files that will not.

What do you suggest?

David Newman · March 27th, 2009, 08:55 PM

It is tricky, if is not working on your first try, likely best to get Neo Scene or upgrade to Prospect HD when that adds AVCHD support (in a few weeks or less.) Remember Aspect HD didn't ship AVCHD support, and it is the retro fit that is not working. In Neo Scene and vs NHD/PHD we native support AVCHD, as well as HDV sources.

Steve Montoto · March 27th, 2009, 09:20 PM

I do have Prospect HD v3. Are you saying that the New V4 will have AVCHD support, and it will be released in a few weeks?

Thank you for the quick responses.

Steve

David Newman · March 27th, 2009, 10:01 PM

Yes, v4 of all our PC tools will include AVCHD decoders and demuxing tools for much easier support of AVCHD.

Steve Montoto · March 27th, 2009, 10:09 PM

Ok thank you.

Robert Young · March 27th, 2009, 10:57 PM

I'm using ProspectHD v.3, Adobe CS3, WinXP, and have the Haali Media Splitter installed.
HD Link will pull Sony AVCHD right off of the Duo cards & convert to 1920 CFHD with no problem at all. As far as I know, I have no other media tools or special software installed that relates to AVCHD.
There have been some pretty detailed discussions here about 6 months ago re AVCHD/CF/HDLink.
It might help to do a search & read the old threads.

Jack Laurie · April 1st, 2009, 12:08 PM

Ah, maybe this is my problem too.

I was doing fine with aspect hd converting my hg10 m2ts until I upgraded to prospect HD. Now it crashes immediately after pressing start. Have coreavc pro and haali latest installed.
Have a ticket open (611-7512103) ;suggested unistall and reinstall didn't change anything.

Why would aspect work but not prospect? anyway if that's a known issue to be solved soon, I can wait.

Tom Santopolo · April 2nd, 2009, 07:02 AM

I had to revert to an older install of Prospect HD that I had and install Premiere CS3 and it worked. I am using version ProspectHDv346b188-081203. I also have CoreAVC pro installed. I had submitted a ticket but they could not figure it out - the newest Prospect HD, CoreAVC and CS4 would not work no matter what I did - all on Vista 64.

Steve Montoto · April 2nd, 2009, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Santopolo

I had to revert to an older install of Prospect HD that I had and install Premiere CS3 and it worked. I am using version ProspectHDv346b188-081203. I also have CoreAVC pro installed. I had submitted a ticket but they could not figure it out - the newest Prospect HD, CoreAVC and CS4 would not work no matter what I did - all on Vista 64.

Thanks Tom I will try that. But hopefully like David said, the CS4 version will fix this issue with Vista 64, if it gets released soon. Im starting to get discouraged and think CS4 compatibility is just a myth.

Jack Laurie · April 2nd, 2009, 02:30 PM

Thanks Tom,
I went back to the same version you mentioned and it works now. (I'm using cs3).

Peter Ferling · April 2nd, 2009, 02:42 PM

I'm presently editing a four camera shoot that was shot by another firm, and the key camera was the AVCHD. I have the same issue, sorenson squeeze's ffmpeg and nero 7 on the same machine. I had to convert MTS with Nero to HDV, then run it through HDLink.

Personally I will never shoot ACVHD, but know I will encounter it via future jobs, so v4 will be a welcomed tool for me.

Jack Laurie · April 2nd, 2009, 05:13 PM

weird.
after 'downgrading' and getting prospecthd to work, the resulting int avi's are ridiculously like 2sec) out of audio sync? (the m2ts plays fine). any thoughts. keep audio pitch is not checked. no rate changes , no size/resolution changes.

Peter Ferling · April 3rd, 2009, 08:04 AM

Could be buffer issue. A quick way to know for sure would be to load the clip and then render a very brief, ten second section, to a compressed format (wmv, etc) and see if the sync is present.

March 27th, 2009, 08:07 PM	#1
Steve Montoto Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 302	Problem converting HMC AVCHD with HDLINK I am trying to convert some AVCHD files with HDLINK and I am having no luck, It says converting but it doesn't do anything else, It just stays at converting. I tried it on my laptop and same thing. Vista 64 on both computers AVCore installed Mediasplitter installed ffdshow installed I can play the raw avchd files in windows media player with sound also. any help would be appreciated.

March 27th, 2009, 08:12 PM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Some machine just don't work (ffdshow is normally not a good idea), so using Core AVC and other tools will still clash with third party tools (like Nero 5,6,7.) We solved this is Neo Scene and that tech will be in NEO HD/4K and Prospect HD/4K in version 4, out is a few weeks. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 27th, 2009, 08:55 PM	#4
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	It is tricky, if is not working on your first try, likely best to get Neo Scene or upgrade to Prospect HD when that adds AVCHD support (in a few weeks or less.) Remember Aspect HD didn't ship AVCHD support, and it is the retro fit that is not working. In Neo Scene and vs NHD/PHD we native support AVCHD, as well as HDV sources. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 27th, 2009, 10:01 PM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Yes, v4 of all our PC tools will include AVCHD decoders and demuxing tools for much easier support of AVCHD. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 27th, 2009, 10:57 PM	#8
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	I'm using ProspectHD v.3, Adobe CS3, WinXP, and have the Haali Media Splitter installed. HD Link will pull Sony AVCHD right off of the Duo cards & convert to 1920 CFHD with no problem at all. As far as I know, I have no other media tools or special software installed that relates to AVCHD. There have been some pretty detailed discussions here about 6 months ago re AVCHD/CF/HDLink. It might help to do a search & read the old threads. __________________ Bob

March 27th, 2009, 08:29 PM	#3
Steve Montoto Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 302	David, ffdshow came with sorenson squeeze. I do have prospect with CS3 currently running, do you think I should uninstall the ffdshow? I can convert HDV files fine its just the AVCHD files that will not. What do you suggest?

March 27th, 2009, 09:20 PM	#5
Steve Montoto Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 302	I do have Prospect HD v3. Are you saying that the New V4 will have AVCHD support, and it will be released in a few weeks? Thank you for the quick responses. Steve

March 27th, 2009, 10:09 PM	#7
Steve Montoto Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 302	Ok thank you.

April 1st, 2009, 12:08 PM	#9
Jack Laurie Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 33	Ah, maybe this is my problem too. I was doing fine with aspect hd converting my hg10 m2ts until I upgraded to prospect HD. Now it crashes immediately after pressing start. Have coreavc pro and haali latest installed. Have a ticket open (611-7512103) ;suggested unistall and reinstall didn't change anything. Why would aspect work but not prospect? anyway if that's a known issue to be solved soon, I can wait.

April 2nd, 2009, 07:02 AM	#10
Tom Santopolo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vermont Posts: 60	I had to revert to an older install of Prospect HD that I had and install Premiere CS3 and it worked. I am using version ProspectHDv346b188-081203. I also have CoreAVC pro installed. I had submitted a ticket but they could not figure it out - the newest Prospect HD, CoreAVC and CS4 would not work no matter what I did - all on Vista 64.

April 2nd, 2009, 02:30 PM	#12
Jack Laurie Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 33	Thanks Tom, I went back to the same version you mentioned and it works now. (I'm using cs3).

April 2nd, 2009, 02:42 PM	#13
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	I'm presently editing a four camera shoot that was shot by another firm, and the key camera was the AVCHD. I have the same issue, sorenson squeeze's ffmpeg and nero 7 on the same machine. I had to convert MTS with Nero to HDV, then run it through HDLink. Personally I will never shoot ACVHD, but know I will encounter it via future jobs, so v4 will be a welcomed tool for me. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

April 2nd, 2009, 05:13 PM	#14
Jack Laurie Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 33	weird. after 'downgrading' and getting prospecthd to work, the resulting int avi's are ridiculously like 2sec) out of audio sync? (the m2ts plays fine). any thoughts. keep audio pitch is not checked. no rate changes , no size/resolution changes.

April 3rd, 2009, 08:04 AM	#15
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Could be buffer issue. A quick way to know for sure would be to load the clip and then render a very brief, ten second section, to a compressed format (wmv, etc) and see if the sync is present. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------