64-bit performance increase at DVinfo.net

Anmol Mishra · March 1st, 2009, 12:52 AM

Hi David. I am going to upgrade my current Intensity capture station. I can capture 1080/60i at High quality with a stripped version of 32-bit XP with no dropouts. Memory is 800 MT/s DDR2 and CPU is 2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo w/ 4MB cache (Core 2 Duo T7200 overclocked to 2.2 GHz).

I am considering the Core 2 Duo SL9400 SLB65 1866 MHz 6 MB 1066 MT/s for the upgrade. I will run XP 64-bit, this has SSE 4.1 and 1066 MT/s memory support.

With the memory there will be throughput increase of 25% (800 to 1066), not sure how much improvement SSE 4.1 gives. I have no idea how much of an improvement is given by 32-bit vs 64-bit in Cineform. Blackmagic does seem to have 64-bit XP drivers on its website so that should be fine..

Would appreciate your input, as this will improve my battery life by about 20%.(9W CPU improvement takes 50W to 41W as motherboard draw).

David Newman · March 1st, 2009, 10:41 AM

The memory speed is where you get for most performance gain for CineForm encoding. Very little difference using 64-bit.

Anmol Mishra · March 1st, 2009, 11:40 AM

OK so there will 10-20% improvement with the improved memory speed. I don't think the Socket M Core 2 Duos had SSE 4.1
What is the improvement between the newer Penryn and the older Merom CPUs ??

I have to buy these to test it - so I am just trying to avoid an unnecessary hassle by asking you these questions..

David Newman · March 1st, 2009, 11:49 AM

I don't know the individual CPU models that well, there are just too many, so you might have to try. We don't do any particular SSE4.1 optimizition.

Richard Leadbetter · March 3rd, 2009, 12:48 PM

I think you're going to have issues with realtime CineForm capture at 1.8GHz regardless of the bus speed and memory throughput.

Anmol Mishra · March 5th, 2009, 07:36 PM

Hi David. At this moment, can we use a 64-bit workflow with Vegas (any version ??) and Cineform 64-bit ?

Richard, I was able to capture with a 2 GHz CPU using Neo HD - I overclocked it to 2.2 GHz to be sure. This was about 800 MHz FSB and using Film Scan.

With 1033 MHz FSB, there will be a performance increase and if I use High Quality. If I use the 17W TDP CPUs and overclock them to 2GHz - I think even Film Scan may be fine.

64-bit will still give more performance increase - just not sure how much. I will test and let everyone know.

David Newman · March 5th, 2009, 09:04 PM

We have no 64-bit components yet.

March 1st, 2009, 12:52 AM	#1
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	64-bit performance increase Hi David. I am going to upgrade my current Intensity capture station. I can capture 1080/60i at High quality with a stripped version of 32-bit XP with no dropouts. Memory is 800 MT/s DDR2 and CPU is 2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo w/ 4MB cache (Core 2 Duo T7200 overclocked to 2.2 GHz). I am considering the Core 2 Duo SL9400 SLB65 1866 MHz 6 MB 1066 MT/s for the upgrade. I will run XP 64-bit, this has SSE 4.1 and 1066 MT/s memory support. With the memory there will be throughput increase of 25% (800 to 1066), not sure how much improvement SSE 4.1 gives. I have no idea how much of an improvement is given by 32-bit vs 64-bit in Cineform. Blackmagic does seem to have 64-bit XP drivers on its website so that should be fine.. Would appreciate your input, as this will improve my battery life by about 20%.(9W CPU improvement takes 50W to 41W as motherboard draw).

March 1st, 2009, 10:41 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	The memory speed is where you get for most performance gain for CineForm encoding. Very little difference using 64-bit. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 1st, 2009, 11:40 AM	#3
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	Sse 4.1 OK so there will 10-20% improvement with the improved memory speed. I don't think the Socket M Core 2 Duos had SSE 4.1 What is the improvement between the newer Penryn and the older Merom CPUs ?? I have to buy these to test it - so I am just trying to avoid an unnecessary hassle by asking you these questions..

March 1st, 2009, 11:49 AM	#4
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I don't know the individual CPU models that well, there are just too many, so you might have to try. We don't do any particular SSE4.1 optimizition. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 3rd, 2009, 12:48 PM	#5
Richard Leadbetter Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 323	I think you're going to have issues with realtime CineForm capture at 1.8GHz regardless of the bus speed and memory throughput. __________________ Company Website: Digital Foundry Ltd Video Games HD Blog: Digital Foundry@Eurogamer

March 5th, 2009, 07:36 PM	#6
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	64-bit Vegas and Neo HD Hi David. At this moment, can we use a 64-bit workflow with Vegas (any version ??) and Cineform 64-bit ? Richard, I was able to capture with a 2 GHz CPU using Neo HD - I overclocked it to 2.2 GHz to be sure. This was about 800 MHz FSB and using Film Scan. With 1033 MHz FSB, there will be a performance increase and if I use High Quality. If I use the 17W TDP CPUs and overclock them to 2GHz - I think even Film Scan may be fine. 64-bit will still give more performance increase - just not sure how much. I will test and let everyone know.

March 5th, 2009, 09:04 PM	#7
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	We have no 64-bit components yet. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman