Cineform/Xena/Monitor & then to Broadcast??? at DVinfo.net

Brent Graham · January 14th, 2009, 07:32 PM

Hi everyone,

I am a commercial producer and have been working with the following items:

- Camera: Red One
- NLE: Adobe Premiere CS3
- Codec: Cineform Prospect 4K build 187
- IO Card: Xena 2K (HD-SDI)

I have two questions:

1) How do I set up my Premiere/Xena 2K to output a 720p realtime monitor playback into my 720p monitor. (I must continue to edit in 4K cineform while monitoring on 720p)

2) Being that I'm on PC, and a cineform fan... I am staying away from Apple ProRes 422. What is the best way to send an HD spot to the broadcasters and retain clarity while not forcing Uncompressed (their machines can't play uncompressed realtime).

Dear David -- I believe #2 is a problem for you at this point, as the station suggested Apple ProRes 422 to deliver HD content. If I HAVE to be on ProRes 422... I have less money for Cineform.

THANK YOU.
@BrentwGraham

Mike McCarthy · January 14th, 2009, 11:28 PM

If you have an AJA Xena2K, you can use the retail driver install to make DVCProHD Quicktime files, which is a compressed HD codec. The retail drivers are different from the Cineform ones, so don't install them until you are done editing, or dual boot your system.

Brent Graham · January 15th, 2009, 03:03 AM

I've heard of this, but yeah, they can't coexist...

Sucks, wish we could just turn them on/off, until they learn to play nice with one another.

Thanks Mike

Craig Davidson · January 16th, 2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent Graham

Hi everyone,

2) Being that I'm on PC, and a cineform fan... I am staying away from Apple ProRes 422. What is the best way to send an HD spot to the broadcasters and retain clarity while not forcing Uncompressed (their machines can't play uncompressed realtime).

Dear David -- I believe #2 is a problem for you at this point, as the station suggested Apple ProRes 422 to deliver HD content. If I HAVE to be on ProRes 422... I have less money for Cineform.

THANK YOU.
@BrentwGraham

If the station is using Macs, you could see if they would download Neo Player for Mac. It is small, free, and lets you play CineForm files.

Bill Ravens · January 16th, 2009, 11:02 AM

Being as you're on a PC, you couldn't generate Apple prores 422, whether you wanted to or not. There's number of ways to export platform agnostic files:
cineform
sheer
dnxhd
come immediately to mind.

January 14th, 2009, 07:32 PM	#1
Brent Graham Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 222	Cineform/Xena/Monitor & then to Broadcast??? Hi everyone, I am a commercial producer and have been working with the following items: - Camera: Red One - NLE: Adobe Premiere CS3 - Codec: Cineform Prospect 4K build 187 - IO Card: Xena 2K (HD-SDI) I have two questions: 1) How do I set up my Premiere/Xena 2K to output a 720p realtime monitor playback into my 720p monitor. (I must continue to edit in 4K cineform while monitoring on 720p) 2) Being that I'm on PC, and a cineform fan... I am staying away from Apple ProRes 422. What is the best way to send an HD spot to the broadcasters and retain clarity while not forcing Uncompressed (their machines can't play uncompressed realtime). Dear David -- I believe #2 is a problem for you at this point, as the station suggested Apple ProRes 422 to deliver HD content. If I HAVE to be on ProRes 422... I have less money for Cineform. THANK YOU. @BrentwGraham __________________ Film Kit : Canon 7D - 50mm 1.4 - My Right Eyeball

January 15th, 2009, 03:03 AM	#3
Brent Graham Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 222	I've heard of this, but yeah, they can't coexist... Sucks, wish we could just turn them on/off, until they learn to play nice with one another. Thanks Mike __________________ Film Kit : Canon 7D - 50mm 1.4 - My Right Eyeball

January 14th, 2009, 11:28 PM	#2
Mike McCarthy Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 517	If you have an AJA Xena2K, you can use the retail driver install to make DVCProHD Quicktime files, which is a compressed HD codec. The retail drivers are different from the Cineform ones, so don't install them until you are done editing, or dual boot your system. __________________ For more information on these topics, check out my tech website at www.hd4pc.com

January 16th, 2009, 11:02 AM	#5
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Being as you're on a PC, you couldn't generate Apple prores 422, whether you wanted to or not. There's number of ways to export platform agnostic files: cineform sheer dnxhd come immediately to mind.