Release Date for Cineform CS4

Mathew Williams · February 12th, 2009, 09:08 PM

Is there any more news on the roll out of Prospect support for CS4? At the start of the thread I was told end of Jan, I'm just wondering how close we are now? Not a biggie if it's delayed, would just be useful to know as I'm about to start another big project - ideally I'd like to do it with cineform, but if it's going to be another month or so realistically then I'll go ahead without. Cheers.

David Newman · February 12th, 2009, 09:43 PM

We have few CS4 glitches that we needed work around before the importer release. CS4 includes a lot of changes, some don't make third party development as easy as we would like.

Manuel Lopez · February 13th, 2009, 09:53 AM

Hello. I readed this in other forum: "... they said they are waiting on a new update from Adobe then all Manufacturers can release CS4 drivers".
Possibly Cineform is waiting also.

Ed Kishel · February 13th, 2009, 11:38 AM

I'm still not even sure what this CS4 importer is... is it a standalone product, or an accessory for current cineform owners for use in CS4? I cant find any info on the CF website. What does this product do exactly

thanks,

David Newman · February 13th, 2009, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Kishel

I'm still not even sure what this CS4 importer is... is it a standalone product, or an accessory for current cineform owners for use in CS4? I cant find any info on the CF website. What does this product do exactly

thanks,

Technobabel, "CS4 importers" mean your CineForm AVI files will open (import) in CS4 with 32-bit float precision and all that goodness.

Alan Mills · February 14th, 2009, 05:16 AM

Have upgraded from Aspect to Propsect ready for the CS4 release. I've not actually attemopted to install over CS4 yet though. but can I? Won't expect CS4 to offer anbythign just yet but presumably HDLink will work just fine and I can start capturing some tapes hopefully. Wil lthat work?

David Newman · February 14th, 2009, 09:51 AM

Alan, Yes that works.

Craig Irving · February 16th, 2009, 04:36 PM

I know first will come the importer, but how does Cineform plan to implement the speech-to-text feature of CS4? Will it transcode into a new Cineform AVI file when it adds the metadata for speech? Will all CS4 features like this ultimately be supported?

Mathew Williams · February 24th, 2009, 09:53 AM

"but we're targeting a beta release before the end of the year with the production version in January."

I understand you've run into some difficulties with the cineform CS4 version, but is it time for me to stop checking the cineform website daily on the lookout for this release? Do you have a revised idea of when this will be available atall?

Thanks

Matt

Brad Pritchett · February 24th, 2009, 03:33 PM

I JUST bought NeoScene so I could edit my Canon 5DM2 video content easily in CS4. I was too focused on the 5DM2 compatibility release to read the fine print on the website on CS4 compatibility.

Now, I've dropped the $$ for NeoScene and I can't use it. I know, should have gone with the trial version first, but all the reviews I've been reading make it sound like this product is a necessity for 5DM2 video editing on a PC. I was too trusting and impulsive.

So, to the fine people from Cineform, when will my NeoScene files be compatible with CS4??? The website still says Feb09 release, so is that still accurate, or is this looking more like April/May?

David Newman · February 24th, 2009, 03:53 PM

It is compatible now, if not, you have some older CS3 only importer components. This thread is about CineForm CS4 support for acceleration, not about compatibility.

Remove any file call *CFHD*.prm from
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS4\MediaCore

---
Re: CS4 component availability:

CS4 Importer, still any day, waiting on Adobe feedback for a performance fix. Once that is done and out, the rest of Prospect will get un-stuck (likely NAB time-frame now.)

Stephen Armour · February 24th, 2009, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

...Re: CS4 component availability:

CS4 Importer, still any day, waiting on Adobe feedback for a performance fix. Once that is done and out, the rest of Prospect will get un-stuck (likely NAB time-frame now.)

Who knows, maybe with all the Slumdog Millionaire kudos coming in, Adobe will give you guys a bit more attention? We can always hope that Adobe will want some of the kudos too.

Congrads on the 2/3's part of the movie they owe to you guys!

(Check out our website videos, we're still expanding and would have some HD trailers up if we had better internet service than slow 3G)

David Newman · February 24th, 2009, 04:54 PM

Slumdog wasn't edited in Premiere, so Adobe likely doesn't care. It is a lot of work to have Adobe understand what we can do for them -- and we have tried. It should be obvious as:

Dust 2 Glory, the first film to have a compressed DI, ever. Helped by CineForm.
Slumdog Millionaire, the first mostly digitally acquired feature to win either best cinematophy or best picture. Helped by CineForm.

We do a lot of firsts. You will have to see more of the firsts we are going to show at NAB.

Jay Bloomfield · February 24th, 2009, 05:53 PM

Have you ever posted here, the link to this tutorial?

Silicon Imaging

It really does a good job of explaining how Cineform RAW, Prospect 2K &the metadata features (very cool, I might add) all work under Premiere CS3.

Brad Pritchett · February 24th, 2009, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Newman

It is compatible now, if not, you have some older CS3 only importer components. This thread is about CineForm CS4 support for acceleration, not about compatibility.

Remove any file call *CFHD*.prm from
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS4\MediaCore

---
Re: CS4 component availability:

CS4 Importer, still any day, waiting on Adobe feedback for a performance fix. Once that is done and out, the rest of Prospect will get un-stuck (likely NAB time-frame now.)

Sorry, I didn't realize that this was the wrong thread for my issue. I'll repost to a new thread.

February 12th, 2009, 09:43 PM	#32
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	We have few CS4 glitches that we needed work around before the importer release. CS4 includes a lot of changes, some don't make third party development as easy as we would like. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

February 14th, 2009, 09:51 AM	#37
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Alan, Yes that works. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

February 16th, 2009, 04:36 PM	#38
Craig Irving Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 539	Wasn't expecting late-January to turn into mid-February :( I know first will come the importer, but how does Cineform plan to implement the speech-to-text feature of CS4? Will it transcode into a new Cineform AVI file when it adds the metadata for speech? Will all CS4 features like this ultimately be supported?

February 24th, 2009, 03:33 PM	#40
Brad Pritchett New Boot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 18	CS4 update release I JUST bought NeoScene so I could edit my Canon 5DM2 video content easily in CS4. I was too focused on the 5DM2 compatibility release to read the fine print on the website on CS4 compatibility. Now, I've dropped the $$ for NeoScene and I can't use it. I know, should have gone with the trial version first, but all the reviews I've been reading make it sound like this product is a necessity for 5DM2 video editing on a PC. I was too trusting and impulsive. So, to the fine people from Cineform, when will my NeoScene files be compatible with CS4??? The website still says Feb09 release, so is that still accurate, or is this looking more like April/May?

February 24th, 2009, 03:53 PM	#41
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	It is compatible now, if not, you have some older CS3 only importer components. This thread is about CineForm CS4 support for acceleration, not about compatibility. Remove any file call CFHD.prm from C:\Program Files\Adobe\Common\Plug-ins\CS4\MediaCore --- Re: CS4 component availability: CS4 Importer, still any day, waiting on Adobe feedback for a performance fix. Once that is done and out, the rest of Prospect will get un-stuck (likely NAB time-frame now.) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

February 12th, 2009, 09:08 PM	#31
Mathew Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 50	Is there any more news on the roll out of Prospect support for CS4? At the start of the thread I was told end of Jan, I'm just wondering how close we are now? Not a biggie if it's delayed, would just be useful to know as I'm about to start another big project - ideally I'd like to do it with cineform, but if it's going to be another month or so realistically then I'll go ahead without. Cheers.

February 13th, 2009, 09:53 AM	#33
Manuel Lopez Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 40	Hello. I readed this in other forum: "... they said they are waiting on a new update from Adobe then all Manufacturers can release CS4 drivers". Possibly Cineform is waiting also.

February 13th, 2009, 11:38 AM	#34
Ed Kishel Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 80	I'm still not even sure what this CS4 importer is... is it a standalone product, or an accessory for current cineform owners for use in CS4? I cant find any info on the CF website. What does this product do exactly thanks,

February 14th, 2009, 05:16 AM	#36
Alan Mills Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 67	Have upgraded from Aspect to Propsect ready for the CS4 release. I've not actually attemopted to install over CS4 yet though. but can I? Won't expect CS4 to offer anbythign just yet but presumably HDLink will work just fine and I can start capturing some tapes hopefully. Wil lthat work?

February 24th, 2009, 09:53 AM	#39
Mathew Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 50	"but we're targeting a beta release before the end of the year with the production version in January." I understand you've run into some difficulties with the cineform CS4 version, but is it time for me to stop checking the cineform website daily on the lookout for this release? Do you have a revised idea of when this will be available atall? Thanks Matt

February 24th, 2009, 04:54 PM	#43
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Slumdog wasn't edited in Premiere, so Adobe likely doesn't care. It is a lot of work to have Adobe understand what we can do for them -- and we have tried. It should be obvious as: Dust 2 Glory, the first film to have a compressed DI, ever. Helped by CineForm. Slumdog Millionaire, the first mostly digitally acquired feature to win either best cinematophy or best picture. Helped by CineForm. We do a lot of firsts. You will have to see more of the firsts we are going to show at NAB. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

February 24th, 2009, 05:53 PM	#44
Jay Bloomfield Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Voorheesville, NY Posts: 433	Have you ever posted here, the link to this tutorial? Silicon Imaging It really does a good job of explaining how Cineform RAW, Prospect 2K &the metadata features (very cool, I might add) all work under Premiere CS3.