Vista X64, Premiere Pro CS3 & Aspect-HD at DVinfo.net

Tim Bickford · November 25th, 2008, 09:59 PM

I would like to make the switch to Vista X64. I just wanted to see what kind of success folks have had making this switch to Vista X64 using Premiere Pro CS3 with Aspect-HD.

Any advice?

Thanks

David Newman · November 26th, 2008, 10:13 AM

It works generally very well. Only issue still with Vista, is in HDLink connecting to some HDV cameras via firewire, support would know more if this issue remains. All editing and file based conversion are fine under Vista.

Tim Bickford · November 26th, 2008, 12:57 PM

Thanks David.

I capture HDV from my Canon XL H1 via firewire to Aspect-HD. Have there been any X64 issues capturing to Cineform with this camera?

Thanks again!

Happy Thanksgiving...

David Newman · November 26th, 2008, 02:01 PM

The issue is with HDLink capture, so capturing is Aspect HD under Premiere shouldn't be an issue.

Rich Perry · December 3rd, 2008, 07:30 AM

I upgraded to vista Ultimate 64 a few weeks ago with 8 GB RAM. So far it seems way more stable than XP ever was, it has not crashed during rendering yet. I have had some wierd buggy issues to work out that I am still working on. Import issues with older CF projects were a major issue, but I was having this with the older XP installation. The system seems to run a tad slower with Vista 64 but it's much more stable over all/

I will report back after a few weeks when I iron out all the bugs. My advice is to make a dual boot and keep your existing installation, run a trial copy of Vista before purchase to make sure all your hardware is supported. Also vista really needs tweaking badly as there is so much garbage that is installed with it. These sites are great for tweaking.

TweakHound - Tweak & Optimize Windows Vista

Windows Vista - Reset Services to Default (registry files)
(have multiple .reg files you can download to disable unwanted services)

Also make sure you install SP1.
Once you get a stable workflow I would advise you ghost the O/S drive (Symantec Ghost 14 is supported with Vista 64)

Tim Bickford · December 8th, 2008, 11:05 PM

Hey Rich!

I just noticed we both live in NH. I'm down in Exeter.

Thanks for the post. I just got my machine up and running on Vista 64 Ultimate. I've only played around with it for a few hours. So far I have not crashed during a render or encoding. I've had two crashes while using a plugin called "Neat Video". Neat video is a noise filter that I use a lot. I've written to the company to see if perhaps there are 64 bit issues with the software.

I set my four 250 Gig drives to RAID 10. Again, no issues so far. I'm tyring to get better performance out of my system. (i.e. would like some more speed). Check out my post in the world of premiere. Perhaps you can help.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attend-wo...e-pro-cs3.html

Thanks again!

Philip McDonald · December 9th, 2008, 01:08 PM

Rich, I am currently in the process of converting to Vista 64 but am unable to have any of my nle applications capture hdv footage from my xha1. SD footage works but no luck with hdv. Would you suspect it's my graphics card?.

8 GB RAM, ati radeon 3450 HD, quad core 8200...

Rich Perry · December 9th, 2008, 05:55 PM

Hey Tim,

I spent my honeymoon in Exeter NH before I moved up here, great town! - good to meet you! - checking out your post in the premier forum now.

Phillip, as far are your capture issue for Vista 64, I seem to remember some people had issues capturing (was posted here somewhere), I have not had a problem but I use cineform capture inside Premier and batch capture (instead of HDLINK). Have you tried capturing this way? does Vista recognise your A1 when you plug it in? - Sadly I had to sell my A1 so I can't test it out but it's fine with my HV30 and sees it as a camera when I plug it in. I doubt it's your graphics card, cineform should be able to help you on this.

Tim Bickford · December 9th, 2008, 07:09 PM

Rich,

Good to meet you too!

Philip McDonald · December 10th, 2008, 12:33 AM

Rich -

Have not myself attempted cineform capture as you have suggested. The Canon xha1 is recognized by TMPGEnc & Pinnacle, but neither will successfully capture in HDV. I have growing concern that perhaps this may be a present support issue with Canon.

Rich Perry · December 12th, 2008, 05:01 AM

I would try caputing from within CS3 using a cineform template, just make sure it's setup correctly - If you are not using cineform, there are specific xha1 templates you can download from canon: Download Library - Canon USA Consumer Products

Hope that helps :)

Ray Parkes · December 15th, 2008, 08:23 PM

I run Prospect on Vista x64 with 8GB RAM and use a Sony VI camera. I can capture in HDLink but not inside Premier CS3. The camera dissapears when I set it up for HDV capture. I have had lots of problems after the Vista x64 upgrade especially after I installed CS4 to test it. DEP causes AE to crash or rather it did until I turned DEP to the minimum settings. Now although it says its crashed it doesn't. I cancel the dialogue box and AE keeps going.

Jay Bloomfield · December 16th, 2008, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Parkes

... DEP causes AE to crash or rather it did until I turned DEP to the minimum settings. Now although it says its crashed it doesn't. I cancel the dialogue box and AE keeps going.

After Effects spawns multiple copies of itself, each with a 2GB memory space, under Vista X64. This is done to take full advantage of all available RAM & CPU cores. In fact, the main version of AE does keep working, but the spawned copies are the ones killed by DEP. Supposedly this "bug" was fixed in CS4.

Norman Willis · January 20th, 2009, 12:01 PM

Hi. I apologize if I am coming in late.

I just did a fresh install of Vista Ultimate 64 bit and Vegas 8.1. Now I am trying to download Apple Quicktime so I can use my .mov files, but Apple tells me that there is no 64-bit Quicktime. Vegas 8.1 does not want me to install the 32-bit.

It seems like I am dead in the water. Has anyone else faced this issue? Is there some workaround? Or what do I do?

Thank you,

Norman

Wolf Korgyn · January 20th, 2009, 12:43 PM

For what it's worth, I use Vista x64 (Quad-core 2.4Ghz, 4Gb ram), Premiere CS3, and import my little Canon HV30 footage with NeoScene directly and it works like a dream - removing pulldown, etc. and generating perfect CF AVI files - all in real-time. Cineform is such a great format.

Wolf

November 25th, 2008, 09:59 PM	#1
Tim Bickford Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 448	Vista X64, Premiere Pro CS3 & Aspect-HD I would like to make the switch to Vista X64. I just wanted to see what kind of success folks have had making this switch to Vista X64 using Premiere Pro CS3 with Aspect-HD. Any advice? Thanks __________________ Tim Bickford

November 26th, 2008, 10:13 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	It works generally very well. Only issue still with Vista, is in HDLink connecting to some HDV cameras via firewire, support would know more if this issue remains. All editing and file based conversion are fine under Vista. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

November 26th, 2008, 12:57 PM	#3
Tim Bickford Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 448	Thanks David. I capture HDV from my Canon XL H1 via firewire to Aspect-HD. Have there been any X64 issues capturing to Cineform with this camera? Thanks again! Happy Thanksgiving... __________________ Tim Bickford

November 26th, 2008, 02:01 PM	#4
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	The issue is with HDLink capture, so capturing is Aspect HD under Premiere shouldn't be an issue. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

December 8th, 2008, 11:05 PM	#6
Tim Bickford Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 448	Hey Rich! I just noticed we both live in NH. I'm down in Exeter. Thanks for the post. I just got my machine up and running on Vista 64 Ultimate. I've only played around with it for a few hours. So far I have not crashed during a render or encoding. I've had two crashes while using a plugin called "Neat Video". Neat video is a noise filter that I use a lot. I've written to the company to see if perhaps there are 64 bit issues with the software. I set my four 250 Gig drives to RAID 10. Again, no issues so far. I'm tyring to get better performance out of my system. (i.e. would like some more speed). Check out my post in the world of premiere. Perhaps you can help. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attend-wo...e-pro-cs3.html Thanks again! __________________ Tim Bickford

December 3rd, 2008, 07:30 AM	#5
Rich Perry Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nashua NH Posts: 278	I upgraded to vista Ultimate 64 a few weeks ago with 8 GB RAM. So far it seems way more stable than XP ever was, it has not crashed during rendering yet. I have had some wierd buggy issues to work out that I am still working on. Import issues with older CF projects were a major issue, but I was having this with the older XP installation. The system seems to run a tad slower with Vista 64 but it's much more stable over all/ I will report back after a few weeks when I iron out all the bugs. My advice is to make a dual boot and keep your existing installation, run a trial copy of Vista before purchase to make sure all your hardware is supported. Also vista really needs tweaking badly as there is so much garbage that is installed with it. These sites are great for tweaking. TweakHound - Tweak & Optimize Windows Vista Windows Vista - Reset Services to Default (registry files) (have multiple .reg files you can download to disable unwanted services) Also make sure you install SP1. Once you get a stable workflow I would advise you ghost the O/S drive (Symantec Ghost 14 is supported with Vista 64)

December 9th, 2008, 01:08 PM	#7
Philip McDonald New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roseville, Minnesota Posts: 5	Rich, I am currently in the process of converting to Vista 64 but am unable to have any of my nle applications capture hdv footage from my xha1. SD footage works but no luck with hdv. Would you suspect it's my graphics card?. 8 GB RAM, ati radeon 3450 HD, quad core 8200...

December 9th, 2008, 05:55 PM	#8
Rich Perry Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nashua NH Posts: 278	Hey Tim, I spent my honeymoon in Exeter NH before I moved up here, great town! - good to meet you! - checking out your post in the premier forum now. Phillip, as far are your capture issue for Vista 64, I seem to remember some people had issues capturing (was posted here somewhere), I have not had a problem but I use cineform capture inside Premier and batch capture (instead of HDLINK). Have you tried capturing this way? does Vista recognise your A1 when you plug it in? - Sadly I had to sell my A1 so I can't test it out but it's fine with my HV30 and sees it as a camera when I plug it in. I doubt it's your graphics card, cineform should be able to help you on this.

December 9th, 2008, 07:09 PM	#9
Tim Bickford Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 448	Rich, Good to meet you too! __________________ Tim Bickford

December 10th, 2008, 12:33 AM	#10
Philip McDonald New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roseville, Minnesota Posts: 5	Rich - Have not myself attempted cineform capture as you have suggested. The Canon xha1 is recognized by TMPGEnc & Pinnacle, but neither will successfully capture in HDV. I have growing concern that perhaps this may be a present support issue with Canon.

December 12th, 2008, 05:01 AM	#11
Rich Perry Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nashua NH Posts: 278	I would try caputing from within CS3 using a cineform template, just make sure it's setup correctly - If you are not using cineform, there are specific xha1 templates you can download from canon: Download Library - Canon USA Consumer Products Hope that helps :)

December 15th, 2008, 08:23 PM	#12
Ray Parkes Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Golden Bay New Zealand Posts: 46	Prospect HDV capture I run Prospect on Vista x64 with 8GB RAM and use a Sony VI camera. I can capture in HDLink but not inside Premier CS3. The camera dissapears when I set it up for HDV capture. I have had lots of problems after the Vista x64 upgrade especially after I installed CS4 to test it. DEP causes AE to crash or rather it did until I turned DEP to the minimum settings. Now although it says its crashed it doesn't. I cancel the dialogue box and AE keeps going.

January 20th, 2009, 12:01 PM	#14
Norman Willis New Boot Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Cottonwood, CA Posts: 7	QuickTime 64? Hi. I apologize if I am coming in late. I just did a fresh install of Vista Ultimate 64 bit and Vegas 8.1. Now I am trying to download Apple Quicktime so I can use my .mov files, but Apple tells me that there is no 64-bit Quicktime. Vegas 8.1 does not want me to install the 32-bit. It seems like I am dead in the water. Has anyone else faced this issue? Is there some workaround? Or what do I do? Thank you, Norman

January 20th, 2009, 12:43 PM	#15
Wolf Korgyn New Boot Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 9	For what it's worth, I use Vista x64 (Quad-core 2.4Ghz, 4Gb ram), Premiere CS3, and import my little Canon HV30 footage with NeoScene directly and it works like a dream - removing pulldown, etc. and generating perfect CF AVI files - all in real-time. Cineform is such a great format. Wolf __________________ Wind in your fur and muzzle to the moon...