Aspect HD

David Newman · September 24th, 2003, 10:12 AM

Buy the 6.5 version. :) The Premiere Pro version is still a couple of months away, and the price will go up. Aspect HD for Premiere 6.5 is $1200, and it includes the free Premiere Pro upgrade of Aspect HD while we aren't taking pre-orders on Pro. So if you have HD project now, you will have paid for this product many times over before Aspect HD for P.Pro ships.

John Eriksson · September 24th, 2003, 03:15 PM

great!

John Eriksson · September 24th, 2003, 06:37 PM

Can somone answer this 3 questions?

1.Is the JY-HD10E fully supported with Aspect HD?
2.Does the JY-HD10E record PAL on any mode HD/SD/DV?
3.Does it output a PAL signal from the S-VHS and the compoite port? Or is that also NTSC, and what is the diffirance with JY-HD10E and JY HD10U?

Thanks!

David Newman · September 24th, 2003, 06:52 PM

The JY-HD10U and the JY-HD10E are the same camera. It has no PAL mode (and therefore fully compatible with Aspect HD.)

This site lists its specs.
http://www.provis.com.au/products/video/jy_hd10e.htm

John Eriksson · September 24th, 2003, 07:22 PM

not even PAL signal from the S-VHS and the composite port?

thanks!

Steve Mullen · September 24th, 2003, 08:29 PM

JVC GR-PD1 for thePAL world

Digital Full Progressive Video Camera

• 1/3-inch 1.18 Megapixel Progressive Scan CCD with Hybrid Complementary-Primary Digital Filter

• Hi-Def F1.8-F1.9 Optically Stabilised Zoom Lens

• MPEG-2 Recording on MiniDV Cassette

• Multi-Format Recording and Playback:

* DV PAL Interlace: 4:3 625/50i

* MPEG-2 PAL Progressive: 16:9 625/50p

* MPEG-2 PAL Progressive: 16:9 625/25p

* MPEG-2 PAL Progressive: 4:3 625/50p

John Eriksson · September 24th, 2003, 11:53 PM

yes, I have heard of this, but there is no HD on that one.. thanks anyways..

David Newman · September 25th, 2003, 09:04 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by John Eriksson : not even PAL signal from the S-VHS and the composite port? -->>>

Not even. :(

Jay Nemeth · September 25th, 2003, 08:19 PM

David,

If I created a 5.1 soundtrack, is there a way to export that as Dolby Digital with the Mpeg2 stream so I would have a DVHS with DD5.1 sound?

Thanks,

Jay

David Newman · September 26th, 2003, 08:35 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jay Nemeth : David,

If I created a 5.1 soundtrack, is there a way to export that as Dolby Digital with the Mpeg2 stream so I would have a DVHS with DD5.1 sound?-->>>

Good question. I know Premiere Pro adds 5.1 support and it comes with a Dolby Digital trial encoder (you can use it three time before you have to buy a license.) I haven't determined yet how that can be added to transport streams. I'll put that on my list of things to learn.

John Eriksson · October 5th, 2003, 11:03 PM

First I converted the HD to DV and then when I was going to export it to tape via firewire.. BUT it become anamorphic (vertical strech) And I dont want that!!

I want "the black borders" How can I get that without going in to Afer Effects, And does Aspect HD support that directly?

David Newman · October 7th, 2003, 10:12 AM

John,

Firstly anamorphic export to DV from 16:9 HD is normally the desired operation. The black border letterboxing is a feature of analog exporting from your DV deck to a 4:3 display. Basically the black borders are not rendered into you output as downstream DV devices can normally handle 16:9 to 4:3 conversions. When you are exporting to VHS, or formats that generally are not anamorphic, you could dumb from your DV deck (in the 16:9 to 4:3 mode), or play the analog signal straight off the timeline using a Maxtox P750 or Parhelia card. This is the way recommended for Aspect HD also.

John Eriksson · October 7th, 2003, 03:19 PM

Yes, but how do I make a direct "black borders" -copy out on to DV tape without using After Effects or any special trix in premiere,

I just want it to give the correct black borders on scrub directly?
Is this somehow possible? (with or wihout aspect HD)?? I don´t like the anamorpic idea, cause I have a 4:3 telly! What settings or changes will I have to do in premiere or on the camcorder to get this to work?
/John

David Newman · October 7th, 2003, 03:53 PM

It might be a setting on your DV camera (not all have this.) However you can do it under Premiere:

1) Right click on a clip on your timeline.
2) Select "Video Option" -> "Maintain Aspect Ratio"
3) Repeat 1-2 for all clips.
4) Then export the timeline as DV.

If you have a lot of clips, export the whole time line in some interim format (CFHD -- for Aspect HD, or HUFFYUV or uncompressed if not Aspect HD.) Re-import the new one clip, set the fixed aspect ratio, then export to DV.

John Eriksson · October 8th, 2003, 01:18 PM

thanks!

September 24th, 2003, 03:15 PM	#77
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	YES.. great!

September 24th, 2003, 06:37 PM	#78
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	What is the diffirance with JY-HD10E and JY HD10U? Can somone answer this 3 questions? 1.Is the JY-HD10E fully supported with Aspect HD? 2.Does the JY-HD10E record PAL on any mode HD/SD/DV? 3.Does it output a PAL signal from the S-VHS and the compoite port? Or is that also NTSC, and what is the diffirance with JY-HD10E and JY HD10U? Thanks!

September 24th, 2003, 06:52 PM	#79
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Re: What is the diffirance with JY-HD10E and JY HD10U? The JY-HD10U and the JY-HD10E are the same camera. It has no PAL mode (and therefore fully compatible with Aspect HD.) This site lists its specs. http://www.provis.com.au/products/video/jy_hd10e.htm

September 24th, 2003, 07:22 PM	#80
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	not even ?? not even PAL signal from the S-VHS and the composite port? thanks!

September 24th, 2003, 08:29 PM	#81
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September 24th, 2003, 10:12 AM	#76
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Buy the 6.5 version. :) The Premiere Pro version is still a couple of months away, and the price will go up. Aspect HD for Premiere 6.5 is $1200, and it includes the free Premiere Pro upgrade of Aspect HD while we aren't taking pre-orders on Pro. So if you have HD project now, you will have paid for this product many times over before Aspect HD for P.Pro ships.

September 24th, 2003, 11:53 PM	#82
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	jepp. yes, I have heard of this, but there is no HD on that one.. thanks anyways..

September 25th, 2003, 09:04 AM	#83
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Re: not even ?? <<<-- Originally posted by John Eriksson : not even PAL signal from the S-VHS and the composite port? -->>> Not even. :(

September 25th, 2003, 08:19 PM	#84
Jay Nemeth Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 64	David, If I created a 5.1 soundtrack, is there a way to export that as Dolby Digital with the Mpeg2 stream so I would have a DVHS with DD5.1 sound? Thanks, Jay

September 26th, 2003, 08:35 AM	#85
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	<<<-- Originally posted by Jay Nemeth : David, If I created a 5.1 soundtrack, is there a way to export that as Dolby Digital with the Mpeg2 stream so I would have a DVHS with DD5.1 sound?-->>> Good question. I know Premiere Pro adds 5.1 support and it comes with a Dolby Digital trial encoder (you can use it three time before you have to buy a license.) I haven't determined yet how that can be added to transport streams. I'll put that on my list of things to learn.

October 5th, 2003, 11:03 PM	#86
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	HD to DV PROBLEM First I converted the HD to DV and then when I was going to export it to tape via firewire.. BUT it become anamorphic (vertical strech) And I dont want that!! I want "the black borders" How can I get that without going in to Afer Effects, And does Aspect HD support that directly?

October 7th, 2003, 10:12 AM	#87
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	John, Firstly anamorphic export to DV from 16:9 HD is normally the desired operation. The black border letterboxing is a feature of analog exporting from your DV deck to a 4:3 display. Basically the black borders are not rendered into you output as downstream DV devices can normally handle 16:9 to 4:3 conversions. When you are exporting to VHS, or formats that generally are not anamorphic, you could dumb from your DV deck (in the 16:9 to 4:3 mode), or play the analog signal straight off the timeline using a Maxtox P750 or Parhelia card. This is the way recommended for Aspect HD also.

October 7th, 2003, 03:19 PM	#88
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	Yes, but I dont want to do any special trix.. Yes, but how do I make a direct "black borders" -copy out on to DV tape without using After Effects or any special trix in premiere, I just want it to give the correct black borders on scrub directly? Is this somehow possible? (with or wihout aspect HD)?? I don´t like the anamorpic idea, cause I have a 4:3 telly! What settings or changes will I have to do in premiere or on the camcorder to get this to work? /John

October 7th, 2003, 03:53 PM	#89
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	It might be a setting on your DV camera (not all have this.) However you can do it under Premiere: 1) Right click on a clip on your timeline. 2) Select "Video Option" -> "Maintain Aspect Ratio" 3) Repeat 1-2 for all clips. 4) Then export the timeline as DV. If you have a lot of clips, export the whole time line in some interim format (CFHD -- for Aspect HD, or HUFFYUV or uncompressed if not Aspect HD.) Re-import the new one clip, set the fixed aspect ratio, then export to DV.

October 8th, 2003, 01:18 PM	#90
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	thanks! thanks!