Green-Purple export from After Effects CS3 at DVinfo.net

Stathis Athanasiou · October 20th, 2008, 05:05 AM

Hello,
I have been using NEO HDV and have recently upgraded to AspectHD (5.31 build 119). I am using CS3 and my problem appeared when I installed Aspect. Previously with NEO I could follow this procedure without problems:
I import a premiere project to after effects for colour correction, and export a final Cineform avi from AE. Then I import it back to premiere and the clip plays as follows: The image is scaled in the middle 50% of the display, its half part on the left is totally green and the other half (right) is squeezed and upside down, in green and purple (!)
I have tried changing every setting in AE. I have tried deinterlacing upper field, upper field with "preserve edges" on, and have switched on and off every setting in the codec (Video Systems RGB, ITU.Bt.709, Up convert 4:2:2 to 4:4:4, all quality settings, all Interlacing settngs), but nothing. I always get this problem when playing back from the timeline, the preview window and the little thumbnail on the project window. Note that scrubbing works fine. Only playback is problematic.
The problematic files exported from AE, playback normally in premiere using the HDV 1080p25 preset, so its a problem with the cineform preset somehow.
I have attached a picture to demonstrate my problem, but because I couldn't grab the overlay screen during playback, I recreated it in Photoshop, but you get the idea I guess...

I am using a Toshiba Qosmio G30-10B, Vista 32bit, Intel Core2 T7600@2.33GHz with 4GB of RAM.
Please help me with this, because I cannot work at the moment.
Thank you,
Stathis

David Newman · October 20th, 2008, 09:09 AM

Try the latest version of Aspect HD, that version is old.

Stathis Athanasiou · October 20th, 2008, 11:26 AM

I just installed v5.43 Build 127
Nothing. The same thing...

David Newman · October 20th, 2008, 12:39 PM

I you re-encode the source (in AE) and it still does it, file a trouble ticket at CineForm Support.

Stathis Athanasiou · October 20th, 2008, 12:54 PM

I don't understand. What do you mean if I re-encode the source? Whatever I export from AE using the cineform codec, has this problem when brought in Premiere.
For example I used a jpg, making a simple movement with it and exported using the cineform codec. When imported back in premiere the problem is still there. I mean it doesn't matter what I use in AE as source, as long as it is exported using cineform, it will not playback in Premiere.
I used the Force Render filter in Premiere, and the problematic files play back after rendering, but that defeats the purpose of having a real-time plugin, doesn't it?

David Newman · October 20th, 2008, 01:12 PM

All I was asking is for you to retry your exports from AE, not assume that you old exports would work with the newer software. This is not a known issue (AE exports work fine) that is why you need to talk to support.

Stathis Athanasiou · October 20th, 2008, 01:29 PM

I have tried that as well. I will post a trouble ticket and see what happens. I guess you have never heard of something similar?

Stathis Athanasiou · October 21st, 2008, 03:22 PM

I resolved the problem and I am just letting you know what was it, in case you come across it again. Instead of using "Cineform AVI" in the output module in AE, I was using Video for Windows with Cineform codec.

It was that silly...

:)

Cheers

Stathis Athanasiou · November 18th, 2008, 02:42 AM

Unfortunately it was not just that. Just to let others know who might be experiencing this weird bug, the inverted green-purple display appears randomly after some cut in the timeline and continues like this (ie inverted, scaled 50%, green-purple) until I pause. Hitting play again, it continues normally, until the next cut, and then it continues like this again.
I have tried several things that cineform support proposed, but up to now, nothing works.
:>(

October 20th, 2008, 05:05 AM	#1
Stathis Athanasiou Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens, Hellas Posts: 73	Green-Purple export from After Effects CS3 Hello, I have been using NEO HDV and have recently upgraded to AspectHD (5.31 build 119). I am using CS3 and my problem appeared when I installed Aspect. Previously with NEO I could follow this procedure without problems: I import a premiere project to after effects for colour correction, and export a final Cineform avi from AE. Then I import it back to premiere and the clip plays as follows: The image is scaled in the middle 50% of the display, its half part on the left is totally green and the other half (right) is squeezed and upside down, in green and purple (!) I have tried changing every setting in AE. I have tried deinterlacing upper field, upper field with "preserve edges" on, and have switched on and off every setting in the codec (Video Systems RGB, ITU.Bt.709, Up convert 4:2:2 to 4:4:4, all quality settings, all Interlacing settngs), but nothing. I always get this problem when playing back from the timeline, the preview window and the little thumbnail on the project window. Note that scrubbing works fine. Only playback is problematic. The problematic files exported from AE, playback normally in premiere using the HDV 1080p25 preset, so its a problem with the cineform preset somehow. I have attached a picture to demonstrate my problem, but because I couldn't grab the overlay screen during playback, I recreated it in Photoshop, but you get the idea I guess... I am using a Toshiba Qosmio G30-10B, Vista 32bit, Intel Core2 T7600@2.33GHz with 4GB of RAM. Please help me with this, because I cannot work at the moment. Thank you, Stathis Attached Thumbnails

October 20th, 2008, 09:09 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Try the latest version of Aspect HD, that version is old. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

October 20th, 2008, 12:39 PM	#4
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	I you re-encode the source (in AE) and it still does it, file a trouble ticket at CineForm Support. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

October 20th, 2008, 01:12 PM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	All I was asking is for you to retry your exports from AE, not assume that you old exports would work with the newer software. This is not a known issue (AE exports work fine) that is why you need to talk to support. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

October 21st, 2008, 03:22 PM	#8
Stathis Athanasiou Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens, Hellas Posts: 73	Solved ! I resolved the problem and I am just letting you know what was it, in case you come across it again. Instead of using "Cineform AVI" in the output module in AE, I was using Video for Windows with Cineform codec. It was that silly... :) Cheers

October 20th, 2008, 11:26 AM	#3
Stathis Athanasiou Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens, Hellas Posts: 73	I just installed v5.43 Build 127 Nothing. The same thing...

October 20th, 2008, 12:54 PM	#5
Stathis Athanasiou Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens, Hellas Posts: 73	I don't understand. What do you mean if I re-encode the source? Whatever I export from AE using the cineform codec, has this problem when brought in Premiere. For example I used a jpg, making a simple movement with it and exported using the cineform codec. When imported back in premiere the problem is still there. I mean it doesn't matter what I use in AE as source, as long as it is exported using cineform, it will not playback in Premiere. I used the Force Render filter in Premiere, and the problematic files play back after rendering, but that defeats the purpose of having a real-time plugin, doesn't it?

October 20th, 2008, 01:29 PM	#7
Stathis Athanasiou Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens, Hellas Posts: 73	I have tried that as well. I will post a trouble ticket and see what happens. I guess you have never heard of something similar?

November 18th, 2008, 02:42 AM	#9
Stathis Athanasiou Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Athens, Hellas Posts: 73	No... Unfortunately it was not just that. Just to let others know who might be experiencing this weird bug, the inverted green-purple display appears randomly after some cut in the timeline and continues like this (ie inverted, scaled 50%, green-purple) until I pause. Hitting play again, it continues normally, until the next cut, and then it continues like this again. I have tried several things that cineform support proposed, but up to now, nothing works. :>(